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  • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

    what a fucking shitshow.

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    #45

    @peter really surprised? I mean the guy lets AI write code he des not review and blasts it in the world

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    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

      what a fucking shitshow.

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      #46

      @peter Ah, the guy Armin (mitsuhiko), the dev behind minijinja, credits for getting him into slop generation. He seems like an inspiration.

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      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

        what a fucking shitshow.

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        #47

        @peter Irresponsible AI is not new, but it is dangerous

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        • scrwd@mastodon.socialS scrwd@mastodon.social

          @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.

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          #48

          @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich Many years ago, a drinking pal was a social worker with a niche caseload. Young (for the most part) men who had suffered head injuries (and subsequent disablement) in motorcycle crashes. Mid-life guys pobably have a residual sense of survival.

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          • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

            what a fucking shitshow.

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            #49

            @peter Vibe Coding, Vibe Security

            Same thing at Anthropic ("Users are recommended to be aware..." 🤣😞 https://www.promptarmor.com/resources/claude-cowork-exfiltrates-files

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            • scrwd@mastodon.socialS scrwd@mastodon.social

              @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.

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              #50

              @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich I remember reading about that.
              It mostly seemed to come down to them underestimating how much two things had changed in the intervening years:

              • how badly their reflexes had slowed down, and
              • how wildly the power and agility of sportsbikes had improved (the Fireblade was a legit game-changer).

              It may have been about feeling young again, but it seems more often to have been that they feel they can pick it up again.

              Me? I just never had kids 🙂

              I see a common factor, in any case: seriously underestimating just how abruptly and how badly it can get out of hand.

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              • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                what a fucking shitshow.

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                #51

                @peter So, there's this guy that built a machine for people to avoid using their brains, and he's now telling people to use their brains? Did I get this right?

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                • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                  what a fucking shitshow.

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                  #52

                  @peter luckily, it’s not exactly an essential tool

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                  • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                    Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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                    #53

                    @peter @wendynather ageism is pretty cool. I’m sure this isn’t the fruit of the same poisoned corporate tree that caused companies to “adopt” open source literally because it was free

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                    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                      what a fucking shitshow.

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                      #54

                      @peter
                      Why don't he just create a bunch of AI Agent Reviewer to support him?
                      It's so easy!

                      /s

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                      • eschaton@mastodon.socialE eschaton@mastodon.social

                        @peter Yeah, I really don’t understand it. I just spent my 40s writing code too, and now at the end of them I’m… writing code, because I never lost it. Just published a new thing yesterday, wrote it in C mostly without even autocomplete since I largely used BBEdit rather than Xcode.

                        I would be absolutely mortified if I had to use an LLM to be productive, and I would find admitting to using one deeply, deeply shameful.

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                        #55

                        @eschaton @peter you use a text editor? Fucking shameful that.

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                        • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                          Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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                          #56

                          @peter I spent my childhood to mid-30s writing code, then a decade in teaching, then back to writing code and LLMs are *why* I'm now burning out.

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                          • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

                            @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich I remember reading about that.
                            It mostly seemed to come down to them underestimating how much two things had changed in the intervening years:

                            • how badly their reflexes had slowed down, and
                            • how wildly the power and agility of sportsbikes had improved (the Fireblade was a legit game-changer).

                            It may have been about feeling young again, but it seems more often to have been that they feel they can pick it up again.

                            Me? I just never had kids 🙂

                            I see a common factor, in any case: seriously underestimating just how abruptly and how badly it can get out of hand.

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                            #57

                            @KatS @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich well back in the day in the UK you could pass your motorcycle test (as I did) on a 12hp CB125 and that still qualifies me today (50 years later) to ride any motorcycle whatever its size or capacity. Needless so say these days I don't ride any motorcycle.
                            Also back in those days I used to program in Fortran, PL/1 and APl. These days I never try anything harder than writing bash scripts by hand and would never touch an LLM with a bargepole.
                            I think the analogy holds pretty well, but it says a lot about how little must be inside the heads of those that are VPs these days.

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                            • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                              what a fucking shitshow.

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                              #58

                              @peter @davidgerard

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                              • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                what a fucking shitshow.

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                                #59

                                @peter I abso-f-cking-lutely LOVE that he doesn't even remotely entertain the idea of using ClawdBot to check for malicious skills. It's a wondrous machine that can do anything as long as it is irrelevant and unsafe.

                                👀 @h0g3R

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                                • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                  what a fucking shitshow.

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                                  #60

                                  @peter
                                  BUT THE TECHBROS ARE MAKING MONEY, THEIR DASHBOARDS LOOK GOOD, THEIR SPREADSHEETS ARE GREEN

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                                  • oli@social.tchncs.deO oli@social.tchncs.de

                                    @peter I abso-f-cking-lutely LOVE that he doesn't even remotely entertain the idea of using ClawdBot to check for malicious skills. It's a wondrous machine that can do anything as long as it is irrelevant and unsafe.

                                    👀 @h0g3R

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                                    #61

                                    @oli

                                    Hey #openclaw, replenish my popcorn reserves, kthxbye.

                                    @peter

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                                    • h0g3r@nrw.socialH h0g3r@nrw.social

                                      @oli

                                      Hey #openclaw, replenish my popcorn reserves, kthxbye.

                                      @peter

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                                      #62

                                      @oli

                                      But in all seriousness, I admire P. Steinberger for letting this thing of the leech. Its the simple best proof of concept for all the critics of this technology. And a lot of the over confident fanboyz get their fair share of their own medicine along the way.

                                      @peter

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                                      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                        what a fucking shitshow.

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                                        #63

                                        @peter

                                        My rule for any new computer thing with a social aspect is: If they don't have any details on how they are going to moderate it, just skip it.

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                                        • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                          Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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                                          #64

                                          @peter ageism rocks, am I right?

                                          Shame the breathless, uncritical, runaway ambition not some roughly-drawn caricature attached to age.

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