what a fucking shitshow.

@peter Vibe Coding, Vibe Security

Same thing at Anthropic ("Users are recommended to be aware..." https://www.promptarmor.com/resources/claude-cowork-exfiltrates-files

@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich I remember reading about that.
It mostly seemed to come down to them underestimating how much two things had changed in the intervening years:

• how badly their reflexes had slowed down, and
• how wildly the power and agility of sportsbikes had improved (the Fireblade was a legit game-changer).

It may have been about feeling young again, but it seems more often to have been that they feel they can pick it up again.

Me? I just never had kids

I see a common factor, in any case: seriously underestimating just how abruptly and how badly it can get out of hand.

@peter So, there's this guy that built a machine for people to avoid using their brains, and he's now telling people to use their brains? Did I get this right?

@peter luckily, it’s not exactly an essential tool

@peter @wendynather ageism is pretty cool. I’m sure this isn’t the fruit of the same poisoned corporate tree that caused companies to “adopt” open source literally because it was free

@peter
Why don't he just create a bunch of AI Agent Reviewer to support him?
It's so easy!

/s

@eschaton @peter you use a text editor? Fucking shameful that.

@peter I spent my childhood to mid-30s writing code, then a decade in teaching, then back to writing code and LLMs are *why* I'm now burning out.

@KatS @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich well back in the day in the UK you could pass your motorcycle test (as I did) on a 12hp CB125 and that still qualifies me today (50 years later) to ride any motorcycle whatever its size or capacity. Needless so say these days I don't ride any motorcycle.
Also back in those days I used to program in Fortran, PL/1 and APl. These days I never try anything harder than writing bash scripts by hand and would never touch an LLM with a bargepole.
I think the analogy holds pretty well, but it says a lot about how little must be inside the heads of those that are VPs these days.

@peter @davidgerard

@peter I abso-f-cking-lutely LOVE that he doesn't even remotely entertain the idea of using ClawdBot to check for malicious skills. It's a wondrous machine that can do anything as long as it is irrelevant and unsafe.

@h0g3R

@peter
BUT THE TECHBROS ARE MAKING MONEY, THEIR DASHBOARDS LOOK GOOD, THEIR SPREADSHEETS ARE GREEN

@oli

Hey #openclaw, replenish my popcorn reserves, kthxbye.

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@oli

But in all seriousness, I admire P. Steinberger for letting this thing of the leech. Its the simple best proof of concept for all the critics of this technology. And a lot of the over confident fanboyz get their fair share of their own medicine along the way.

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My rule for any new computer thing with a social aspect is: If they don't have any details on how they are going to moderate it, just skip it.

@peter ageism rocks, am I right?

Shame the breathless, uncritical, runaway ambition not some roughly-drawn caricature attached to age.

@peter This is the tech-bro mindset in a nutshell. "I made a cool thing that lets both well-intentioned and malicious people do things, and there's nothing I can do about the latter."

@peter just wanted to say, as someone in that latter age range, that the people calling this ageist are off the mark; i don't feel tagged by this at all, i avoided management and still make stuff and i *do* move slower than i did in my 20s/30s but i have dramatically better discernment and ability to spot bad directions, and it's not the least bit ageist to criticize people who are desperately conforming to ageist/classist notions of productivity by using LLMs etc bc their ideology sucks.

@flyingsaceur @peter now they ride with this hot chick Claude(ia) in their vibe codecabrio into the sunset

@peter wait, no, he and I are about the same age and I’m not middle-age — ah, shit.