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  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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    #21

    @osm_tech You guys are heroes, nonetheless!! ✊

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    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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      #22

      @osm_tech hey @emanuelmaiberg this sounds interesting and might add yet another part to your reporting on museums and others being scraped.

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      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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        #23
        @osm_tech You are definitely not alone: https://lwn.net/Articles/1008897/ The situation is not sustainable but I'm not sure what we do about it beyond waiting for the AI bubble to burst.
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        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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          #24

          @osm_tech what is a embedded-Sdk network?

          alivedevil@tauri.earthA osm_tech@en.osm.townO 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

            If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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            #25

            @osm_tech so I recently read a couple writeups from @briankrebs about malware and residential proxies

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            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

              If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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              fooker@infosec.exchange
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              #26

              @osm_tech @dangoodin maybe this might be up your alley? If not you may know someone appriopriate

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              • utf_7@mastodon.socialU utf_7@mastodon.social

                @osm_tech what is a embedded-Sdk network?

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                #27

                @utf_7 @osm_tech

                App developers can embed some "Sdk" into their apps or games.
                The developer receives money.
                The "Sdk"-provider proxies requests through these apps and games, to gain residential IPs.
                And scrapers can buy these services, to tunnel their requests from residential IPs.

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                • alivedevil@tauri.earthA alivedevil@tauri.earth

                  @utf_7 @osm_tech

                  App developers can embed some "Sdk" into their apps or games.
                  The developer receives money.
                  The "Sdk"-provider proxies requests through these apps and games, to gain residential IPs.
                  And scrapers can buy these services, to tunnel their requests from residential IPs.

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                  #28

                  @utf_7 @osm_tech

                  This gets ugly really fast, if you want to see the full extent: <https://alternativeto.net/software/netnut-proxy-network/> for a list of _known_ residential proxy-providers.

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                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                    #29

                    @osm_tech You're absolutely not alone, we wish you good luck! ~n

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                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                      #30

                      @osm_tech@en.osm.town 404 media might be interested in this - they've been doing a lot of pieces about the impact of AI

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                      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                        #31

                        @osm_tech maybe @civio @dcabo can be interested or help finding someone

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                        • alivedevil@tauri.earthA alivedevil@tauri.earth

                          @utf_7 @osm_tech

                          App developers can embed some "Sdk" into their apps or games.
                          The developer receives money.
                          The "Sdk"-provider proxies requests through these apps and games, to gain residential IPs.
                          And scrapers can buy these services, to tunnel their requests from residential IPs.

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                          #32

                          @AliveDevil @utf_7 @osm_tech how do I know of any of my installed apps is doing this crap? Could that be just buried in terms of use? Or would I need to give it explicit consent?

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                          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                            If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                            #33

                            @osm_tech
                            @leah just recently discussed the same topic from the perspective of a web hosting provider in the @chaosradio podcast.

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                            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                              If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                              #34

                              @osm_tech @geerlingguy I would 100% watch a video about that. Just throwing it out there 🙂

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                              • luksfarris@ruby.socialL luksfarris@ruby.social

                                @AliveDevil @utf_7 @osm_tech how do I know of any of my installed apps is doing this crap? Could that be just buried in terms of use? Or would I need to give it explicit consent?

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                                #35

                                @luksfarris @utf_7

                                Probably terms of use, but this is so shady, that I doubt anyone would even bother disclosing this.
                                Best you can do: Monitor network traffic, and use DNS block lists for these known proxy services.

                                They definitely won't ask you for consent.
                                The only way to know an app _doesn't_ use these services is checking for the "requires internet access"-flag in AppStores, but that is basically futile, as most apps require internet access for … something.

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                                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                  If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                  #36

                                  @osm_tech @suka_hiroaki

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                                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                    #37

                                    @osm_tech @schellevis @laurensvhg ?

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                                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                      #38

                                      @osm_tech I wonder if there's a way to fail2ban requests coming in faster than typically found in human requests.

                                      osm_tech@en.osm.townO thatprilla@theatl.socialT nicd@masto.ahlcode.fiN 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                        #39

                                        @osm_tech @jzb ?

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                                        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                          #40

                                          @osm_tech
                                          Maybe @adfichter for @republik_magazin ?

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