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  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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    #13

    @osm_tech I'm administering a web server for a client that has about 50 web sites. Every few days they get hammered by residential proxy IPs for a few hours, so I finally installed Anubis.

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    • pietervdvn@en.osm.townP pietervdvn@en.osm.town

      @osm_tech ugh.... why don't they use the exports...

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      #14

      @pietervdvn Because that would involve a human using their brains or having a shred of conscience and those both go against the basic principles of the companies doing this.

      @osm_tech

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      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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        #15

        @osm_tech Oh, that sounds interesting! If you want, I'd be interested in talking about this.

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        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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          #16

          @osm_tech @josephcox

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          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

            If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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            #17

            @osm_tech definitely not google’s doing

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            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

              If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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              #18

              @osm_tech
              Decades ago when I read Dune I thought the Butlerian Jihad against computers was the silliest thing in it.

              Suddenly it makes sense. The sooner the LLM AI bubble bursts the better!

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              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                #19

                @osm_tech this sounds right up 404 medias alley.

                They all have contacts and have reported on museums and Wikipedia having similar issues.

                https://www.404media.co/about/

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                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                  If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

                  raineer@frontrange.coR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  @osm_tech cc @404mediaco as well

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                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                    #21

                    @osm_tech You guys are heroes, nonetheless!! ✊

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                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                      #22

                      @osm_tech hey @emanuelmaiberg this sounds interesting and might add yet another part to your reporting on museums and others being scraped.

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                      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                        #23
                        @osm_tech You are definitely not alone: https://lwn.net/Articles/1008897/ The situation is not sustainable but I'm not sure what we do about it beyond waiting for the AI bubble to burst.
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                        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                          #24

                          @osm_tech what is a embedded-Sdk network?

                          alivedevil@tauri.earthA osm_tech@en.osm.townO 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                            If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                            #25

                            @osm_tech so I recently read a couple writeups from @briankrebs about malware and residential proxies

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                            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                              If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                              #26

                              @osm_tech @dangoodin maybe this might be up your alley? If not you may know someone appriopriate

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                              • utf_7@mastodon.socialU utf_7@mastodon.social

                                @osm_tech what is a embedded-Sdk network?

                                alivedevil@tauri.earthA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #27

                                @utf_7 @osm_tech

                                App developers can embed some "Sdk" into their apps or games.
                                The developer receives money.
                                The "Sdk"-provider proxies requests through these apps and games, to gain residential IPs.
                                And scrapers can buy these services, to tunnel their requests from residential IPs.

                                alivedevil@tauri.earthA luksfarris@ruby.socialL kuniti_shino@pounced-on.meK 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                • alivedevil@tauri.earthA alivedevil@tauri.earth

                                  @utf_7 @osm_tech

                                  App developers can embed some "Sdk" into their apps or games.
                                  The developer receives money.
                                  The "Sdk"-provider proxies requests through these apps and games, to gain residential IPs.
                                  And scrapers can buy these services, to tunnel their requests from residential IPs.

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                                  #28

                                  @utf_7 @osm_tech

                                  This gets ugly really fast, if you want to see the full extent: <https://alternativeto.net/software/netnut-proxy-network/> for a list of _known_ residential proxy-providers.

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                                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                    #29

                                    @osm_tech You're absolutely not alone, we wish you good luck! ~n

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                                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                      #30

                                      @osm_tech@en.osm.town 404 media might be interested in this - they've been doing a lot of pieces about the impact of AI

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                                      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

                                        jorgesanz@mapstodon.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #31

                                        @osm_tech maybe @civio @dcabo can be interested or help finding someone

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                                        • alivedevil@tauri.earthA alivedevil@tauri.earth

                                          @utf_7 @osm_tech

                                          App developers can embed some "Sdk" into their apps or games.
                                          The developer receives money.
                                          The "Sdk"-provider proxies requests through these apps and games, to gain residential IPs.
                                          And scrapers can buy these services, to tunnel their requests from residential IPs.

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                                          #32

                                          @AliveDevil @utf_7 @osm_tech how do I know of any of my installed apps is doing this crap? Could that be just buried in terms of use? Or would I need to give it explicit consent?

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