I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
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@trelord75 Greenland isn’t all ice-covered, and all the populated areas are just tundra. Seisure of strategic locations (airports) would be the obvious military objective. Greenland has no internal roads so everything travels by air or sea.
@trelord75 my main concern is the ensuing logistical chaos after an invasion, rather than the relatively small risk of being killed by military action
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@trelord75 Greenland isn’t all ice-covered, and all the populated areas are just tundra. Seisure of strategic locations (airports) would be the obvious military objective. Greenland has no internal roads so everything travels by air or sea.
I just keep thinking of the Team Amer1kkka theme song, ckfu yeah, coming through to save ...
Those guys are gunna have a field day with all this junk, and so they should.
(obligatory "Matt Damon" as a sign of love & respect)
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj A year ago that would indeed have been a far fetched idea.
But, the announcements have been repeated already multiple times since. -
@drmikepj My kid just turned down an invitation from a British friend to join them for eclipse-viewing in Iceland this summer--because my kid is trans, and was afraid they wouldn't be let back into the US.
@epicdemiologist that’s very sad
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@drmikepj A year ago that would indeed have been a far fetched idea.
But, the announcements have been repeated already multiple times since.@AngelaScholder indeed, hence my concern! I’ve been doing fieldwork in Greenland every year for the last four years, this is the first time I’ve had to take a threat of war seriously
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@pthane yes - basically we’ll cancel the fieldtrip if there’s a US military buildup before we leave the UK, and in any case we’ll make additional arrangements with the university and UK government science officials so people know where we are in case there’s a surprise
@drmikepj
I'm sure you considered how to get the people out, but don't forget a rapid shutdown and data evacuation plan. -
I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj Interesting thought! Out of curiosity - which mitigation did you suggest?
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@mloxton indeed! Fortunately our data goes live by satellite so that’s one less thing to worry about.
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@drmikepj Interesting thought! Out of curiosity - which mitigation did you suggest?
@mortenlarsen basically we will keep an eye on the situation and if there’s evidence of unusual military activity pre-trip, we’ll cancel pre-emptively. If stuff starts to happen whilst we’re on site, we’ll decide whether to abandon camp and go back to town, or whether to stay in camp (relatively safe if the town and airport itself are being attacked) and deal with consequences later.
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@AngelaScholder indeed, hence my concern! I’ve been doing fieldwork in Greenland every year for the last four years, this is the first time I’ve had to take a threat of war seriously
@drmikepj Yes, you will have to take it really serious.
I wouldn't be surprised if by June you would need a US visa.....
It's just utterly insane that this is my expectancy of the near future. -
@mloxton indeed! Fortunately our data goes live by satellite so that’s one less thing to worry about.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
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@mycotropic
That's a whole other risk, but if you think of the satellite link as a continuous backup to your home repository, if the link goes down, you still have everything saved up to that point, and you are going to be scramming anyway. @drmikepj -
I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj if it does invade, NATO is over
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@drmikepj if it does invade, NATO is over
@Braganca yes, that’s why I said that a cancelled science project is “small beer” (i.e. inconsequential in the scheme of things)
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@mycotropic
That's a whole other risk, but if you think of the satellite link as a continuous backup to your home repository, if the link goes down, you still have everything saved up to that point, and you are going to be scramming anyway. @drmikepj@mloxton @mycotropic yeah, it’s Iridium, so American, but like you say, I’ll have the data. If we’re in that situation I’ll have bigger problems than lost data.
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@jason indeed not - it was the idea of having to cancel a science project that I rated as “small beer” (ie relatively inconsequential) compared with the geopolitical implications!
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj good luck. (Not being sarcastic/joking. Sincerely.)
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj a friend of mine crossed Greenland with a research team in 2024. at that time the world seemed a bit calmer.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj oh how great, you get to do an actual breakdown of the "man or bear" problem
