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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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  • mortenlarsen@mastodon.greenM mortenlarsen@mastodon.green

    @drmikepj Interesting thought! Out of curiosity - which mitigation did you suggest?

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    #31

    @mortenlarsen basically we will keep an eye on the situation and if there’s evidence of unusual military activity pre-trip, we’ll cancel pre-emptively. If stuff starts to happen whilst we’re on site, we’ll decide whether to abandon camp and go back to town, or whether to stay in camp (relatively safe if the town and airport itself are being attacked) and deal with consequences later.

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    • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

      @AngelaScholder indeed, hence my concern! I’ve been doing fieldwork in Greenland every year for the last four years, this is the first time I’ve had to take a threat of war seriously

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      #32

      @drmikepj Yes, you will have to take it really serious.
      I wouldn't be surprised if by June you would need a US visa.....
      It's just utterly insane that this is my expectancy of the near future.

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      • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

        @mloxton indeed! Fortunately our data goes live by satellite so that’s one less thing to worry about.

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        #33

        @drmikepj @mloxton

        Whose satellite?

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        • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

          I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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          #34

          @drmikepj @Gargron I’m not sure I’d describe the US invading a NATO ally as “small”

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          • mycotropic@beige.partyM mycotropic@beige.party

            @drmikepj @mloxton

            Whose satellite?

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            #35

            @mycotropic
            That's a whole other risk, but if you think of the satellite link as a continuous backup to your home repository, if the link goes down, you still have everything saved up to that point, and you are going to be scramming anyway. @drmikepj

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            • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

              I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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              #36

              @drmikepj if it does invade, NATO is over

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              • braganca@mastodon.socialB braganca@mastodon.social

                @drmikepj if it does invade, NATO is over

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                #37

                @Braganca yes, that’s why I said that a cancelled science project is “small beer” (i.e. inconsequential in the scheme of things)

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                • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                  @mycotropic
                  That's a whole other risk, but if you think of the satellite link as a continuous backup to your home repository, if the link goes down, you still have everything saved up to that point, and you are going to be scramming anyway. @drmikepj

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                  #38

                  @mloxton @mycotropic yeah, it’s Iridium, so American, but like you say, I’ll have the data. If we’re in that situation I’ll have bigger problems than lost data.

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                  • jason@logoff.websiteJ jason@logoff.website

                    @drmikepj @Gargron I’m not sure I’d describe the US invading a NATO ally as “small”

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                    #39

                    @jason indeed not - it was the idea of having to cancel a science project that I rated as “small beer” (ie relatively inconsequential) compared with the geopolitical implications!

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                    • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

                      I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                      #40

                      @drmikepj good luck. (Not being sarcastic/joking. Sincerely.)

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                      • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

                        I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                        #41

                        @drmikepj a friend of mine crossed Greenland with a research team in 2024. at that time the world seemed a bit calmer.

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                        • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

                          I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                          #42

                          @drmikepj oh how great, you get to do an actual breakdown of the "man or bear" problem

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                          • _holger@mastodon.social_ _holger@mastodon.social

                            @drmikepj a friend of mine crossed Greenland with a research team in 2024. at that time the world seemed a bit calmer.

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                            #43

                            @_holger yeah, I have previously been involved in big multinational science projects on the ice sheet, and I think those days are now sadly numbered

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              @drmikepj oh how great, you get to do an actual breakdown of the "man or bear" problem

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                              #44

                              @sarae yeah…

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                              • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

                                @epicdemiologist that’s very sad

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                                #45

                                @drmikepj FREEDOM

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                                • drmikepj@mastodon.socialD drmikepj@mastodon.social

                                  I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.

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                                  #46

                                  @drmikepj I didn't have to expect to add America going rogue into my IT security and business continuity plans assessments either!

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                                  • leiawelsh@toot.walesL leiawelsh@toot.wales

                                    @drmikepj I didn't have to expect to add America going rogue into my IT security and business continuity plans assessments either!

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                                    #47

                                    @leiawelsh he hasn’t even been president for a year. Sigh.

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