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It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

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  • tony@toot.hoyle.me.ukT tony@toot.hoyle.me.uk

    @neil
    I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

    Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

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    #22

    @tony @neil
    That problem exists for the whole protocol, though. A server can equally well ignore "mentioned only" and show the post on their "local" feed if it wants to.

    Thus the problem doesn't prevent implementing the feature any more than it prevents the whole fediverse.

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #23

      @Natasha_Jay

      Yes, exactly!

      And, sure, people can follow whomever they want too.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        @tknarr

        Ah, reply privacy, being the visibility level attached to a reply I make.

        No, that is something completely different to controlling what replies I allow to my toots.

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        #24

        @neil Huh. I thought there was a separate one for replies to your post, not your replies. Sorry, apparently I was wrong.

        I also don't see anything for limiting visibiility to only those you follow, only to followers. There's an option whether or not to auto-approve followers, you can turn that off to give you control over who can follow you. That seems to be as far as it goes.

        Going to add my voice to the requests for more reply privacy options.

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

          Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

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          #25

          @neil I've had women say they were leaving things as niche as language exchange apps because of appalling comments. My wife joined a pen-pal, slow delivery, letter-like service and had to leave because of what she got.

          I honestly don't know what the fuck is wrong with a lot of men.

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          • curiousbadger@mstdn.socialC curiousbadger@mstdn.social

            @neil I've had women say they were leaving things as niche as language exchange apps because of appalling comments. My wife joined a pen-pal, slow delivery, letter-like service and had to leave because of what she got.

            I honestly don't know what the fuck is wrong with a lot of men.

            neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @curiousbadger Indeed 😞

            And this is a (predominantly) men thing, not a tech thing.

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            • tknarr@mstdn.socialT tknarr@mstdn.social

              @neil Huh. I thought there was a separate one for replies to your post, not your replies. Sorry, apparently I was wrong.

              I also don't see anything for limiting visibiility to only those you follow, only to followers. There's an option whether or not to auto-approve followers, you can turn that off to give you control over who can follow you. That seems to be as far as it goes.

              Going to add my voice to the requests for more reply privacy options.

              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #27

              @tknarr It's all good 🙂

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                electricfusionq@muenchen.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @neil Can you in RL control who`s replying to words you said?

                neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN mawhrin@circumstances.runM 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                • electricfusionq@muenchen.socialE electricfusionq@muenchen.social

                  @neil Can you in RL control who`s replying to words you said?

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                  #29

                  @electricfusionQ

                  RL?

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    @electricfusionQ

                    RL?

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                    #30

                    @neil real life

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                    • electricfusionq@muenchen.socialE electricfusionq@muenchen.social

                      @neil real life

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                      #31

                      @electricfusionQ

                      This is real life?

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        @electricfusionQ

                        This is real life?

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                        #32

                        @neil Then the actual face to face world

                        neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN 31113@kolektiva.social3 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                        • electricfusionq@muenchen.socialE electricfusionq@muenchen.social

                          @neil Then the actual face to face world

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                          #33

                          @electricfusionQ

                          Sorry, I think that I am misunderstanding.

                          Yes, women (and others) get harassed face to face too, and yes, absolutely, men should stop doing that. In the absence of that, we should put safety measures in place.

                          We have the ability to do different things in different contexts.

                          If that is what you are saying, then I agree completely.

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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                            Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                            u_urban@social.tchncs.deU This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #34

                            @neil

                            Wo ist das Problem, dann muss man halt seinen Beitrag mit der Einstellung "Only Follower" veröffentlichen!
                            Ist halt schade um die Möglichkeit seine Gedanken in größerer Runde auszutauschen und auf neue interessante Menschen zu treffen!
                            Vielleicht hilft dann auch der Umzug auf eine andere, kleinere (?) Instanz.
                            Oft lohnt sich auch die Kommunikation auf die Metaebene zu heben, konnte so schon manches Missverständnis klären!

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                              Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                              vsrt@wehavecookies.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #35

                              @neil new here, what’s a “fedi”? I keep seeing this word but I can’t understand what it is

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                                Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

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                                #36

                                @neil 💯

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                                  Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                                  tchambers@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #37

                                  @neil @steter Agree that reply controls and “hide reply” in particular where it make reply invisible but commenter never knows - is crucial to build.

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                                  • vsrt@wehavecookies.socialV vsrt@wehavecookies.social

                                    @neil new here, what’s a “fedi”? I keep seeing this word but I can’t understand what it is

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                                    #38

                                    @VSRT

                                    Welcome!

                                    The term "fediverse" is just slang for the network(s) of federated services/servers, of which your server (wehavecookies.social) is one.

                                    A "fedi" user, here, is someone who uses one or more fediverse services.

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                                    • u_urban@social.tchncs.deU u_urban@social.tchncs.de

                                      @neil

                                      Wo ist das Problem, dann muss man halt seinen Beitrag mit der Einstellung "Only Follower" veröffentlichen!
                                      Ist halt schade um die Möglichkeit seine Gedanken in größerer Runde auszutauschen und auf neue interessante Menschen zu treffen!
                                      Vielleicht hilft dann auch der Umzug auf eine andere, kleinere (?) Instanz.
                                      Oft lohnt sich auch die Kommunikation auf die Metaebene zu heben, konnte so schon manches Missverständnis klären!

                                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #39

                                      @u_urban

                                      I suspect that the online translation I used is poor, as it makes it sound like you are trivialising the impact of these replies on women, and suggesting that the onus is on them (moving instance, or engaging differently) to solve the problem.

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        @tknarr It's all good 🙂

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                                        #40

                                        @neil I'm still looking at what's involved in creating subscribeable blocklists. The basic hook into the block functionality on the server is obvious enough, but the list itself involves learning everything about the ActivityPub protocol and the federation and syndication models. Making it useful involves having categorization and user ratings while preventing abuse of them too. Straightforward in concept, terminally hirsute in implementation.

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          @VSRT

                                          Welcome!

                                          The term "fediverse" is just slang for the network(s) of federated services/servers, of which your server (wehavecookies.social) is one.

                                          A "fedi" user, here, is someone who uses one or more fediverse services.

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                                          #41

                                          @neil oh I understand now, thanks for taking the time to explain it to me :))

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