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  • collectifission@greennuclear.onlineC collectifission@greennuclear.online

    Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
    Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT

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    #99

    @collectifission @Em0nM4stodon the big noisy thing in the front is used to scare the snow away from the tracks

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    • bouriquet@mastodon.socialB bouriquet@mastodon.social

      @collectifission Difference is that Dutch rail is mostly electric, maybe 3rd rail or overhead.
      Diesel power in Canada is brute force without need for a good electrical connection

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      #100

      @bouriquet @collectifission

      Oh. The snow or ice breaks the electrical connection?

      Seems like they could fix that with some sort of scraper that's mounted ahead of the train. Or maybe a separate self-powered service-car that cleans off the lines.

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      • collectifission@greennuclear.onlineC collectifission@greennuclear.online

        @rrustema020 Yeah, Canadian rail is all kinds of bad, barely standing above the absolute crap that is Amtrak in the US.

        But at least they can blast through snow 😅

        @reinierl @VoxClamans @notjustbikes

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        #101

        @collectifission @rrustema020 @VoxClamans @notjustbikes I'm afraid it's worse than Amtrak.

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        • collectifission@greennuclear.onlineC collectifission@greennuclear.online

          Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
          Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT

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          #102

          @collectifission Sweden goes back and forth. Budget cuts suck. Modern heated switches can only handle about -10 and after that they get covered in ice and sticks.

          But the funniest part was the great two winters of 2005-06 when the main train company had to take a snow blower from 1912 (!!) out of mothball storage at a museum because it was the only one powerful enough to handle 60-100 cm of snow for hundreds of kilometers.

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          • alsopaisleycat@tenforward.socialA alsopaisleycat@tenforward.social

            @Jourei
            In the second video, where the train is clearing trees with just a cow catcher on the front of the locomotive, not even a snowplough, they go rightfully through some very large trunks. The locomotive is very heavy, it would take a large rockfall or damage to the tracks to derail it.

            @Susan60 @collectifission

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            #103

            @AlsoPaisleyCat Also, from what I've seen all major train routes here are cleared of trees on both sides to a significant distance. It would still be possible for a fallen tree to be somehow carried to the track, but those conditions would be significantly worse than heavy snow.

            Gimli has an old train line, locomotive is an old Burlington Northern, that carries grain maybe once a week up to the distillery, presumably from some elevator or terminal to the south, I've never traced how far the tracks go but I suppose it probably runs all the way to Winnipeg still. That track has trees close enough that it could potentially happen, but this is not a major freight line to or from the coast.

            @Jourei @Susan60 @collectifission

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            • rrustema020@mastodon.nlR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #104

              @AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes

              Am afraid I would not be Canadian enough and forget all politeness. I would go wild and storm through any obstacles to get my train.

              Nothing to lose after all. Cause a scene. Hopefully someone records it and can make a meme out of it.

              10 minutes! That is when I leave home before my international train leaves. Someone should provoke some sense into those who invent such a stupid rule. No justification possible.

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              • number6@fosstodon.orgN number6@fosstodon.org

                @bouriquet @collectifission

                Oh. The snow or ice breaks the electrical connection?

                Seems like they could fix that with some sort of scraper that's mounted ahead of the train. Or maybe a separate self-powered service-car that cleans off the lines.

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                #105

                @number6 @collectifission It’s difficult. I recall issues in the mid 1980s on the British Rail line to Brighton from “leaves on the line” after a heavy rainstorm in the fall.

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                • rrustema020@mastodon.nlR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #106

                  @AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes The Ottawa Police would show up when demanding service? It's not like you're breaking the law, only misbehaving according to some arbitrary rules of some company.

                  Once a phone company called the police when I demanded service. When the cops came they were too busy with angry customers and I helped them with my case. Very understanding. Outside I thanked them for the proper service. They wished me good luck. It was hell in there.

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                  • rrustema020@mastodon.nlR rrustema020@mastodon.nl

                    @AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes The Ottawa Police would show up when demanding service? It's not like you're breaking the law, only misbehaving according to some arbitrary rules of some company.

                    Once a phone company called the police when I demanded service. When the cops came they were too busy with angry customers and I helped them with my case. Very understanding. Outside I thanked them for the proper service. They wished me good luck. It was hell in there.

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                    #107

                    @AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes

                    For those who master the Dutch language. I told the anecdote on stage in a comedy club and it became a podcast.

                    Episode 24 https://echtgebeurd.net/podcasts and https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/afl-24-de-klant-is-koning-reinder-rustema/id638203140?i=1000396512212

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                      #108

                      @nilz @collectifission I was told this earlier in the evening by Germans. Apparently Deutsche Bahn are awful for time keeping.

                      Same conversation had a Dutch chap telling how a Canadian train he was on (one of a fleet which the Dutch have bought) stopped on track, lights went off for a few minutes, came back on and the train pulled off again. He's a government person who deals with transport. Apparently there was a software issue and the checklist said to restart it which knocked everything out.

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                      • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                        @Susan60 @collectifission yes. A passenger train hit two trucks inexplicably parked on the tracks here overnight, even _with_ visibility.

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                        #109

                        @ottaross @collectifission

                        Oh dear…

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                        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                          @Susan60 @collectifission it is not on the track long ;). (Also, this is the prairies, trees?)
                          But mostly the first answer…
                          https://youtu.be/u7QCnv0Qpfg?si=7bHqFmrXyIDn7WzM

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                          #110

                          @chris @collectifission

                          I think it’s the idea of driving blind that has me stunned. It’s just not something that happens in my country, so seems very strange.

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                          • alsopaisleycat@tenforward.socialA alsopaisleycat@tenforward.social

                            @Susan60

                            The Q&A video with the younger driver who was on the track-clearing run says it all.

                            It’s Canada, they can’t wait for perfection so they just sent an empty train on a bright clear day to clear it. They let the cow catcher force the trunks down under the wheels of the train. Only branches less than 10 cm could get through and the windshield wipers kept the view clear.

                            The image of a locomotive pushing forward through the snow is classic, one that stays with you having seen it since childhood.

                            @collectifission

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                            #111

                            @AlsoPaisleyCat @collectifission

                            Yes, totally foreign to me.

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                            • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                              @collectifission @manlycoffee that has got to be so fun.

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                              #112

                              @chris @collectifission @manlycoffee i was just thinki mng the same thing! such a good attraction park!

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                              • collectifission@greennuclear.onlineC collectifission@greennuclear.online

                                Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
                                Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT

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                                #113

                                @collectifission And then see this:
                                https://www.reddit.com/r/trains/comments/1adkqfd/the_war_on_snow_union_pacific_rotary_snow_plow/

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                                • rrustema020@mastodon.nlR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #114

                                  @AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes How does it look like? Did you take pictures?

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                                  • bouriquet@mastodon.socialB bouriquet@mastodon.social

                                    @collectifission Difference is that Dutch rail is mostly electric, maybe 3rd rail or overhead.
                                    Diesel power in Canada is brute force without need for a good electrical connection

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                                    #115

                                    @bouriquet @collectifission That can't be all of it if, as we're told upthread, the Swiss RhB can cope with deep snow.

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                                    • rich@mastodon.gamedev.placeR rich@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @collectifission British Trains: one leaf of the "wrong type" lands near an embankment in Derby - No trains for 5 days

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                                      #116

                                      @rich @collectifission Leaves on the line!

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                                      • collectifission@greennuclear.onlineC collectifission@greennuclear.online

                                        Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
                                        Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT

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                                        #117

                                        @collectifission Haha... Das sollte man mal sowohl der Deutschen Bahn als auch der ÖBB senden!! 😁

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                                        • denisbloodnok@mendeddrum.orgD denisbloodnok@mendeddrum.org

                                          @bouriquet @collectifission That can't be all of it if, as we're told upthread, the Swiss RhB can cope with deep snow.

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                                          #118

                                          @denisbloodnok @collectifission I’ve ridden on RhB and M/GB. I’m sure they can: they’re winter experts for sure. They also use overhead wires, and have good snowplows I guess, along with heaters where needed to keep track switches from freezing up.
                                          But I think their snowplows are diesel driven. Here’s MGB clearing the Oberalp pass.

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