Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT
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@VoxClamans @collectifission This. In fariness, Canadian passenger rail's "fully functioning schedule" on a clear sunny day is much worse than anything NS pulls off even on snow days. Canadians don't complain about it anymore, they just drive or fly.
@reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission Yes, that is what I understood from this video from @notjustbikes about Canadian rail.
And that passenger trains are running on the tracks owned by the cargo train company. Cargo gets priority. The train we see here is also a cargo train.
And that as a passenger you have to 'check in' asif you are boarding a train. Ridiculous.
See https://youtu.be/n1G0Lyh3uik for example. Enjoy.
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@reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission Yes, that is what I understood from this video from @notjustbikes about Canadian rail.
And that passenger trains are running on the tracks owned by the cargo train company. Cargo gets priority. The train we see here is also a cargo train.
And that as a passenger you have to 'check in' asif you are boarding a train. Ridiculous.
See https://youtu.be/n1G0Lyh3uik for example. Enjoy.
@rrustema020 Yeah, Canadian rail is all kinds of bad, barely standing above the absolute crap that is Amtrak in the US.
But at least they can blast through snow

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Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT@collectifission
Germany: We didn't put trains out at all and none got stuck in the open. Isn't that a success!? -
Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT@collectifission Canadian here - that train is hauling freight. From my limited experience as a passenger here, freight rules the rails. Our cross-Canada trip was 3 days late because we kept having to sit on laybys waiting for a freight train to rip by us at high speed. It might be worth looking at how many freight derailments happen here in Canada relative to elsewhere. In BC, annually it seems, there are usually a few significant ones.
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Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT@collectifission Canadian Trains? Careful what you wish for. There are just 3 trains a week between Halifax (population 500,000) and anywhere. The passenger carriages will soon be replaced with carriages built in the 1950's, and ViaRail proudly called that an "upgrade".
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Still a bit disconcerting if the driver is sometimes unable to see ahead.
@Susan60 @collectifission yes. A passenger train hit two trucks inexplicably parked on the tracks here overnight, even _with_ visibility.
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Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT@collectifission @Em0nM4stodon the big noisy thing in the front is used to scare the snow away from the tracks
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@collectifission Difference is that Dutch rail is mostly electric, maybe 3rd rail or overhead.
Diesel power in Canada is brute force without need for a good electrical connectionOh. The snow or ice breaks the electrical connection?
Seems like they could fix that with some sort of scraper that's mounted ahead of the train. Or maybe a separate self-powered service-car that cleans off the lines.
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@rrustema020 Yeah, Canadian rail is all kinds of bad, barely standing above the absolute crap that is Amtrak in the US.
But at least they can blast through snow

@collectifission @rrustema020 @VoxClamans @notjustbikes I'm afraid it's worse than Amtrak.
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Dutch railways: "oh no, it has snowed, we can't have a fully functioning schedule now"
Canadian trains: TOOT TOOT@collectifission Sweden goes back and forth. Budget cuts suck. Modern heated switches can only handle about -10 and after that they get covered in ice and sticks.
But the funniest part was the great two winters of 2005-06 when the main train company had to take a snow blower from 1912 (!!) out of mothball storage at a museum because it was the only one powerful enough to handle 60-100 cm of snow for hundreds of kilometers.
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@Jourei
In the second video, where the train is clearing trees with just a cow catcher on the front of the locomotive, not even a snowplough, they go rightfully through some very large trunks. The locomotive is very heavy, it would take a large rockfall or damage to the tracks to derail it.@AlsoPaisleyCat Also, from what I've seen all major train routes here are cleared of trees on both sides to a significant distance. It would still be possible for a fallen tree to be somehow carried to the track, but those conditions would be significantly worse than heavy snow.
Gimli has an old train line, locomotive is an old Burlington Northern, that carries grain maybe once a week up to the distillery, presumably from some elevator or terminal to the south, I've never traced how far the tracks go but I suppose it probably runs all the way to Winnipeg still. That track has trees close enough that it could potentially happen, but this is not a major freight line to or from the coast.
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@AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes
Am afraid I would not be Canadian enough and forget all politeness. I would go wild and storm through any obstacles to get my train.
Nothing to lose after all. Cause a scene. Hopefully someone records it and can make a meme out of it.
10 minutes! That is when I leave home before my international train leaves. Someone should provoke some sense into those who invent such a stupid rule. No justification possible.
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Oh. The snow or ice breaks the electrical connection?
Seems like they could fix that with some sort of scraper that's mounted ahead of the train. Or maybe a separate self-powered service-car that cleans off the lines.
@number6 @collectifission It’s difficult. I recall issues in the mid 1980s on the British Rail line to Brighton from “leaves on the line” after a heavy rainstorm in the fall.
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@AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes The Ottawa Police would show up when demanding service? It's not like you're breaking the law, only misbehaving according to some arbitrary rules of some company.
Once a phone company called the police when I demanded service. When the cops came they were too busy with angry customers and I helped them with my case. Very understanding. Outside I thanked them for the proper service. They wished me good luck. It was hell in there.
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@AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes The Ottawa Police would show up when demanding service? It's not like you're breaking the law, only misbehaving according to some arbitrary rules of some company.
Once a phone company called the police when I demanded service. When the cops came they were too busy with angry customers and I helped them with my case. Very understanding. Outside I thanked them for the proper service. They wished me good luck. It was hell in there.
@AlexanderVI @reinierl @VoxClamans @collectifission @notjustbikes
For those who master the Dutch language. I told the anecdote on stage in a comedy club and it became a podcast.
Episode 24 https://echtgebeurd.net/podcasts and https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/afl-24-de-klant-is-koning-reinder-rustema/id638203140?i=1000396512212
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@nilz @collectifission I was told this earlier in the evening by Germans. Apparently Deutsche Bahn are awful for time keeping.
Same conversation had a Dutch chap telling how a Canadian train he was on (one of a fleet which the Dutch have bought) stopped on track, lights went off for a few minutes, came back on and the train pulled off again. He's a government person who deals with transport. Apparently there was a software issue and the checklist said to restart it which knocked everything out.
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@Susan60 @collectifission yes. A passenger train hit two trucks inexplicably parked on the tracks here overnight, even _with_ visibility.
Oh dear…
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@Susan60 @collectifission it is not on the track long ;). (Also, this is the prairies, trees?)
But mostly the first answer…
https://youtu.be/u7QCnv0Qpfg?si=7bHqFmrXyIDn7WzMI think it’s the idea of driving blind that has me stunned. It’s just not something that happens in my country, so seems very strange.
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The Q&A video with the younger driver who was on the track-clearing run says it all.
It’s Canada, they can’t wait for perfection so they just sent an empty train on a bright clear day to clear it. They let the cow catcher force the trunks down under the wheels of the train. Only branches less than 10 cm could get through and the windshield wipers kept the view clear.
The image of a locomotive pushing forward through the snow is classic, one that stays with you having seen it since childhood.
@AlsoPaisleyCat @collectifission
Yes, totally foreign to me.
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@collectifission @manlycoffee that has got to be so fun.
@chris @collectifission @manlycoffee i was just thinki mng the same thing! such a good attraction park!