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  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

    what's "the old internet" for you?

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    #61

    @jollysea
    @O 134

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    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

      what's "the old internet" for you?

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      #62

      @jollysea I still remember chatting in bitnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET not the language model!)

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      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

        @joepie91 what would be an example for that?

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        #63

        @jollysea @joepie91 ii2 ! You could (gasp) upload photos !

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        • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

          what's "the old internet" for you?

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          #64

          @jollysea @patterfloof I could really gopher this poll...

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          • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

            what's "the old internet" for you?

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            #65

            @jollysea personal websites everywhere, all individually handmade

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            • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

              what's "the old internet" for you?

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              #66

              @jollysea
              The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

              And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

              __
              ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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              • lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL lapizistik@social.tchncs.de

                @jollysea
                The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

                And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

                __
                ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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                #67

                @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

                WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                  @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

                  WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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                  #68

                  @jollysea

                  I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                  But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                  But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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                  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                    what's "the old internet" for you?

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                    #69

                    @jollysea@chaos.social You could find stuff on it. ​​

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                    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                      what's "the old internet" for you?

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                      #70

                      @jollysea #IRC, #RSS, #HTML and no CSS bloat or #JS #malware!

                      https://disable-javascript.org

                      #DisableJavaScript #JavaScript

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                      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                        what's "the old internet" for you?

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                        #71

                        @jollysea

                        My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                        You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                        It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                        I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                        • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                          what's "the old internet" for you?

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                          #72

                          @jollysea that'd be, in order:

                          • Arpanet/Early Internet
                          • Web 1.0
                          • Early Web 2.0
                          • Late Web 2.0

                          Old Internet is whatever that came before the current one and you remember was better, I guess

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                          • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                            what's "the old internet" for you?

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                            #73

                            @jollysea Web site were usable w/o adblocker. No tracking.

                            and at least: No Nazis.

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                            • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                              @jollysea

                              My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                              You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                              It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                              I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                              #74

                              @n_dimension wow you have your old bills on microfiche? please tell me more about that! (unironically, I only know microfiche from movies and TV!)

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                              • lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL lapizistik@social.tchncs.de

                                @jollysea

                                I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                                But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                                But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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                                #75

                                @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                  @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                                  #76

                                  @jollysea
                                  Tales from these times are great, and one thing is: it is tales from a time where people were trying to figure out how to do things best without any direct commercial interests – there simply was no one online trying to sell something.

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                                  • quasiabsolut@ohai.socialQ quasiabsolut@ohai.social

                                    @jollysea rotten dot com, phpBB, Kazaa/eMule, Lord of the Weed and old messengers like ICQ (*insert new message sound here*) and MSN 💜

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                                    #77

                                    @quasiabsolut @jollysea same! Did you click 2 or 3?

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                                    • holgermbgl@troet.cafeH holgermbgl@troet.cafe

                                      @jollysea ein MUD.

                                      Im Prinzip die deutsche Version von Nightfall.

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                                      #78

                                      @HolgerMBGL

                                      @jollysea

                                      Was? It still is (and I know people still actively playing – and their daughter also started to play).

                                      I never started playing a mud when I was a student as I saw too many dropping out of university without graduating because they spent all there time in the mud (but I was on irc and played (and still play) nethack)

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                                      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                        what's "the old internet" for you?

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                                        #79

                                        @jollysea Mainly searching results were not that filtered. I explored content from all countries of the world and sometimes had a hard time translating. But nowadays I get what I know from the same two or three countries.

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