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  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

    what's "the old internet" for you?

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    #65

    @jollysea personal websites everywhere, all individually handmade

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    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

      what's "the old internet" for you?

      lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #66

      @jollysea
      The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

      And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

      __
      ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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      • lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL lapizistik@social.tchncs.de

        @jollysea
        The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

        And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

        __
        ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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        #67

        @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

        WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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        • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

          @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

          WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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          #68

          @jollysea

          I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

          But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

          But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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          • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

            what's "the old internet" for you?

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            #69

            @jollysea@chaos.social You could find stuff on it. ​​

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            • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

              what's "the old internet" for you?

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              #70

              @jollysea #IRC, #RSS, #HTML and no CSS bloat or #JS #malware!

              https://disable-javascript.org

              #DisableJavaScript #JavaScript

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              • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                what's "the old internet" for you?

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                #71

                @jollysea

                My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                  what's "the old internet" for you?

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                  #72

                  @jollysea that'd be, in order:

                  • Arpanet/Early Internet
                  • Web 1.0
                  • Early Web 2.0
                  • Late Web 2.0

                  Old Internet is whatever that came before the current one and you remember was better, I guess

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                  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                    what's "the old internet" for you?

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                    #73

                    @jollysea Web site were usable w/o adblocker. No tracking.

                    and at least: No Nazis.

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                    • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                      @jollysea

                      My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                      You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                      It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                      I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                      #74

                      @n_dimension wow you have your old bills on microfiche? please tell me more about that! (unironically, I only know microfiche from movies and TV!)

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                      • lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL lapizistik@social.tchncs.de

                        @jollysea

                        I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                        But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                        But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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                        #75

                        @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                        • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                          @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                          #76

                          @jollysea
                          Tales from these times are great, and one thing is: it is tales from a time where people were trying to figure out how to do things best without any direct commercial interests – there simply was no one online trying to sell something.

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                          • quasiabsolut@ohai.socialQ quasiabsolut@ohai.social

                            @jollysea rotten dot com, phpBB, Kazaa/eMule, Lord of the Weed and old messengers like ICQ (*insert new message sound here*) and MSN 💜

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                            #77

                            @quasiabsolut @jollysea same! Did you click 2 or 3?

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                            • holgermbgl@troet.cafeH holgermbgl@troet.cafe

                              @jollysea ein MUD.

                              Im Prinzip die deutsche Version von Nightfall.

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                              #78

                              @HolgerMBGL

                              @jollysea

                              Was? It still is (and I know people still actively playing – and their daughter also started to play).

                              I never started playing a mud when I was a student as I saw too many dropping out of university without graduating because they spent all there time in the mud (but I was on irc and played (and still play) nethack)

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                              • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                what's "the old internet" for you?

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                                #79

                                @jollysea Mainly searching results were not that filtered. I explored content from all countries of the world and sometimes had a hard time translating. But nowadays I get what I know from the same two or three countries.

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