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  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

    what's "the old internet" for you?

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    #62

    @jollysea I still remember chatting in bitnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET not the language model!)

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    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

      @joepie91 what would be an example for that?

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      #63

      @jollysea @joepie91 ii2 ! You could (gasp) upload photos !

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      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

        what's "the old internet" for you?

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        #64

        @jollysea @patterfloof I could really gopher this poll...

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        • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

          what's "the old internet" for you?

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          #65

          @jollysea personal websites everywhere, all individually handmade

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          • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

            what's "the old internet" for you?

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            #66

            @jollysea
            The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

            And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

            __
            ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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            • lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL lapizistik@social.tchncs.de

              @jollysea
              The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

              And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

              __
              ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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              #67

              @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

              WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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              • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

                WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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                #68

                @jollysea

                I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                  what's "the old internet" for you?

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                  #69

                  @jollysea@chaos.social You could find stuff on it. ​​

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                  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                    what's "the old internet" for you?

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                    #70

                    @jollysea #IRC, #RSS, #HTML and no CSS bloat or #JS #malware!

                    https://disable-javascript.org

                    #DisableJavaScript #JavaScript

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                    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                      what's "the old internet" for you?

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                      #71

                      @jollysea

                      My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                      You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                      It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                      I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                        what's "the old internet" for you?

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                        #72

                        @jollysea that'd be, in order:

                        • Arpanet/Early Internet
                        • Web 1.0
                        • Early Web 2.0
                        • Late Web 2.0

                        Old Internet is whatever that came before the current one and you remember was better, I guess

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                        • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                          what's "the old internet" for you?

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                          #73

                          @jollysea Web site were usable w/o adblocker. No tracking.

                          and at least: No Nazis.

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                          • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                            @jollysea

                            My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                            You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                            It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                            I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                            #74

                            @n_dimension wow you have your old bills on microfiche? please tell me more about that! (unironically, I only know microfiche from movies and TV!)

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                            • lapizistik@social.tchncs.deL lapizistik@social.tchncs.de

                              @jollysea

                              I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                              But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                              But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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                              #75

                              @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                              • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                                #76

                                @jollysea
                                Tales from these times are great, and one thing is: it is tales from a time where people were trying to figure out how to do things best without any direct commercial interests – there simply was no one online trying to sell something.

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                                • quasiabsolut@ohai.socialQ quasiabsolut@ohai.social

                                  @jollysea rotten dot com, phpBB, Kazaa/eMule, Lord of the Weed and old messengers like ICQ (*insert new message sound here*) and MSN 💜

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                                  #77

                                  @quasiabsolut @jollysea same! Did you click 2 or 3?

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                                  • holgermbgl@troet.cafeH holgermbgl@troet.cafe

                                    @jollysea ein MUD.

                                    Im Prinzip die deutsche Version von Nightfall.

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                                    #78

                                    @HolgerMBGL

                                    @jollysea

                                    Was? It still is (and I know people still actively playing – and their daughter also started to play).

                                    I never started playing a mud when I was a student as I saw too many dropping out of university without graduating because they spent all there time in the mud (but I was on irc and played (and still play) nethack)

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                                    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                      what's "the old internet" for you?

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                                      #79

                                      @jollysea Mainly searching results were not that filtered. I explored content from all countries of the world and sometimes had a hard time translating. But nowadays I get what I know from the same two or three countries.

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