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  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

    @lazy Plenty of good ML research going on at Unis. LLMs and Stable Diffusion are just a microscopic slice of ML and there is a lot of cool stuff you can do with the part that do not require you to steal all intellectual property in the world.

    @davidrevoy

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    #101

    @j_bertolotti @lazy I totally agree, and although I often take shortcuts for the sake of efficient communication, my position on LLMs is nuanced.

    What worries me the most is that 'AI browsers' have a larger scope by definition. If Firefox wants to join that group, it would also mean getting a built-in assistant that can browse the web automatically, fill in forms and purchase items on the user's behalf.

    I know users will be able to turn it off, but I see it as a source of security breach.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      Mozilla right now.

      #firefox #mozilla

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      #102

      @davidrevoy this is so sad

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      • D didier@famille.c-f.me

        @davidrevoy you can check web browsers privacy at https://privacytests.org/ @privacytests
        but there is nothing yet about AI.

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        #103

        @didier @davidrevoy @privacytests I wish Brave wasn't run by compete spanners

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          Mozilla right now.

          #firefox #mozilla

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          #104

          Why's it got to be a robot bird?


          #not-mad #great-art
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          • patterfloof@meow.socialP patterfloof@meow.social

            @kptn_offensichtlich @ocramius @davidrevoy they could spin off a Mozilla Research Lab if they've got this much AI scamcoin to burn, let the browser be a browser, make extensions for everything else.

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            #105

            @kptn_offensichtlich @ocramius @davidrevoy and there"s a default home screen they can put links on for "recommended" extensions

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Mozilla right now.

              #firefox #mozilla

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              #106

              @davidrevoy oh no, poor fox ☹️ great work as always, though.

              Unfortunately also very accurate, but won't get me to move to anything Chrome based, since imho a Browser engine monopoly would be even worse.

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              • cybird@app.wafrn.netC cybird@app.wafrn.net

                Why's it got to be a robot bird?


                #not-mad #great-art
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                #107

                People call LLMs "stochastic parrots" because all they really do is somewhat-randomly repeat what's in their training data in accordance with what you tell them. Definitely unfortunate in your case though.

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                • cybird@app.wafrn.netC cybird@app.wafrn.net

                  Why's it got to be a robot bird?


                  #not-mad #great-art
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                  #108

                  @cybird hehe, nice PP, and no offense : it's a character from my recent weekly webcomics, check my TL to read them 😊.

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    Mozilla right now.

                    #firefox #mozilla

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                    #109

                    @davidrevoy I have never seen a more true comic filled with such comedic sadness.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Mozilla right now.

                      #firefox #mozilla

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                      #110

                      @davidrevoy 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

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                      • icil@app.wafrn.netI icil@app.wafrn.net

                        People call LLMs "stochastic parrots" because all they really do is somewhat-randomly repeat what's in their training data in accordance with what you tell them. Definitely unfortunate in your case though.

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                        #111

                        I should have told myself to try a different sona a few years ago, lol.


                        #Whatever #I-was-here-first-dang-it.
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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          @cybird hehe, nice PP, and no offense : it's a character from my recent weekly webcomics, check my TL to read them 😊.

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                          #112

                          None taken lol.


                          #I'll-check-it-out.
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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            @j_bertolotti @lazy I totally agree, and although I often take shortcuts for the sake of efficient communication, my position on LLMs is nuanced.

                            What worries me the most is that 'AI browsers' have a larger scope by definition. If Firefox wants to join that group, it would also mean getting a built-in assistant that can browse the web automatically, fill in forms and purchase items on the user's behalf.

                            I know users will be able to turn it off, but I see it as a source of security breach.

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                            #113

                            @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz @lazy@fedi.at Yes indeed- so why not move Yes and so 'curl' and 'ffmpeg' both need interactive prompting control! (am being sarcastic but yes the equivalent of this will happen) #agenticcurl

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                            • foxbrushtailwag@mastodon.socialF foxbrushtailwag@mastodon.social

                              @davidrevoy oh no, poor fox ☹️ great work as always, though.

                              Unfortunately also very accurate, but won't get me to move to anything Chrome based, since imho a Browser engine monopoly would be even worse.

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                              #114

                              @FoxbrushTailwag Same here, and it makes it even more frustrating. I'm still using Firefox after a couple of months of using LibreWolf, which was educational because I could understand many of Firefox's privacy and options that LibreWolf activates by default.

                              ref: https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/114088651187467058

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                Mozilla right now.

                                #firefox #mozilla

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                                #115

                                @davidrevoy sadly accurate.

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                                • salva_pl@mas.toS salva_pl@mas.to

                                  @Linux @davidrevoy Vivaldi is Chrome in disguise. Meanwhile, @Waterfox says NO to AI and it's not a Chrome based browser.

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                                  #116

                                  @Linux @salva_pl @Waterfox @davidrevoy You need more @zenbrowser in your life

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    Mozilla right now.

                                    #firefox #mozilla

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                                    #117

                                    @davidrevoy At some point, I might as well switch to Librewolf and hope the Gecko engine itself doesn't become the next Chromium.

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                                    • coldfish@sfba.socialC coldfish@sfba.social

                                      @davidrevoy I changed to Brave and it's very nice..... but the default search engine still has some AI stuff, but DuckDuckGo is still there.

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                                      #118

                                      @coldfish @davidrevoy you may try kagi search. I find it better than brave search ans they seem to care about privacy as well.

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        Mozilla right now.

                                        #firefox #mozilla

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                                        #119

                                        @davidrevoy Firefox is shooting itself in the foot with this. Most Firefox users are users of the browser because of privacy reasons and to escape the big brother tech.

                                        Implementing ai in the browser is repulsing idea. Nobody want that. I believe sooner than later people are going to avoid AI in the most parts.

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                                        • futureisfoss@fosstodon.orgF futureisfoss@fosstodon.org

                                          @davidrevoy @adra

                                          I think I found it - https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/misc__2023-06-12_Shhhrrrr-Shrrr-Shrrrr_by-David-Revoy.html

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                                          #120

                                          @futureisfoss @davidrevoy @adra infinitely reusable

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