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  • kptn_offensichtlich@castlewood-datahaven.deK kptn_offensichtlich@castlewood-datahaven.de
    What i would really, really wish from Mozilla is: Make a thing that does one thing and do it right, in this case: Being a browser.

    Yes, i know you can disable the AI crap or any other nuisances, but it would be really nice if they would focus on their main product.

    CC: @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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    #97

    @kptn_offensichtlich @ocramius @davidrevoy they could spin off a Mozilla Research Lab if they've got this much AI scamcoin to burn, let the browser be a browser, make extensions for everything else.

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    • patterfloof@meow.socialP patterfloof@meow.social

      @kptn_offensichtlich @ocramius @davidrevoy they could spin off a Mozilla Research Lab if they've got this much AI scamcoin to burn, let the browser be a browser, make extensions for everything else.

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      #98

      @patterfloof @kptn_offensichtlich @davidrevoy agreed: FF users know when to use extensions 👍

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        Mozilla right now.

        #firefox #mozilla

        drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #99

        @davidrevoy oh no Avian Intelligence

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          Mozilla right now.

          #firefox #mozilla

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          #100

          @davidrevoy
          You sir are the wisest of illustrators..... Insta-meme!

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          • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

            @lazy Plenty of good ML research going on at Unis. LLMs and Stable Diffusion are just a microscopic slice of ML and there is a lot of cool stuff you can do with the part that do not require you to steal all intellectual property in the world.

            @davidrevoy

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            #101

            @j_bertolotti @lazy I totally agree, and although I often take shortcuts for the sake of efficient communication, my position on LLMs is nuanced.

            What worries me the most is that 'AI browsers' have a larger scope by definition. If Firefox wants to join that group, it would also mean getting a built-in assistant that can browse the web automatically, fill in forms and purchase items on the user's behalf.

            I know users will be able to turn it off, but I see it as a source of security breach.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Mozilla right now.

              #firefox #mozilla

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              #102

              @davidrevoy this is so sad

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              • D didier@famille.c-f.me

                @davidrevoy you can check web browsers privacy at https://privacytests.org/ @privacytests
                but there is nothing yet about AI.

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                #103

                @didier @davidrevoy @privacytests I wish Brave wasn't run by compete spanners

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  Mozilla right now.

                  #firefox #mozilla

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                  #104

                  Why's it got to be a robot bird?


                  #not-mad #great-art
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                  • patterfloof@meow.socialP patterfloof@meow.social

                    @kptn_offensichtlich @ocramius @davidrevoy they could spin off a Mozilla Research Lab if they've got this much AI scamcoin to burn, let the browser be a browser, make extensions for everything else.

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                    #105

                    @kptn_offensichtlich @ocramius @davidrevoy and there"s a default home screen they can put links on for "recommended" extensions

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Mozilla right now.

                      #firefox #mozilla

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                      #106

                      @davidrevoy oh no, poor fox ☹️ great work as always, though.

                      Unfortunately also very accurate, but won't get me to move to anything Chrome based, since imho a Browser engine monopoly would be even worse.

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                      • cybird@app.wafrn.netC cybird@app.wafrn.net

                        Why's it got to be a robot bird?


                        #not-mad #great-art
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                        #107

                        People call LLMs "stochastic parrots" because all they really do is somewhat-randomly repeat what's in their training data in accordance with what you tell them. Definitely unfortunate in your case though.

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                        • cybird@app.wafrn.netC cybird@app.wafrn.net

                          Why's it got to be a robot bird?


                          #not-mad #great-art
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                          #108

                          @cybird hehe, nice PP, and no offense : it's a character from my recent weekly webcomics, check my TL to read them 😊.

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            Mozilla right now.

                            #firefox #mozilla

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                            #109

                            @davidrevoy I have never seen a more true comic filled with such comedic sadness.

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              Mozilla right now.

                              #firefox #mozilla

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                              #110

                              @davidrevoy 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

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                              • icil@app.wafrn.netI icil@app.wafrn.net

                                People call LLMs "stochastic parrots" because all they really do is somewhat-randomly repeat what's in their training data in accordance with what you tell them. Definitely unfortunate in your case though.

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                                #111

                                I should have told myself to try a different sona a few years ago, lol.


                                #Whatever #I-was-here-first-dang-it.
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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  @cybird hehe, nice PP, and no offense : it's a character from my recent weekly webcomics, check my TL to read them 😊.

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                                  #112

                                  None taken lol.


                                  #I'll-check-it-out.
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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    @j_bertolotti @lazy I totally agree, and although I often take shortcuts for the sake of efficient communication, my position on LLMs is nuanced.

                                    What worries me the most is that 'AI browsers' have a larger scope by definition. If Firefox wants to join that group, it would also mean getting a built-in assistant that can browse the web automatically, fill in forms and purchase items on the user's behalf.

                                    I know users will be able to turn it off, but I see it as a source of security breach.

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                                    #113

                                    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz @lazy@fedi.at Yes indeed- so why not move Yes and so 'curl' and 'ffmpeg' both need interactive prompting control! (am being sarcastic but yes the equivalent of this will happen) #agenticcurl

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                                    • foxbrushtailwag@mastodon.socialF foxbrushtailwag@mastodon.social

                                      @davidrevoy oh no, poor fox ☹️ great work as always, though.

                                      Unfortunately also very accurate, but won't get me to move to anything Chrome based, since imho a Browser engine monopoly would be even worse.

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                                      #114

                                      @FoxbrushTailwag Same here, and it makes it even more frustrating. I'm still using Firefox after a couple of months of using LibreWolf, which was educational because I could understand many of Firefox's privacy and options that LibreWolf activates by default.

                                      ref: https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/114088651187467058

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        Mozilla right now.

                                        #firefox #mozilla

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                                        #115

                                        @davidrevoy sadly accurate.

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                                        • salva_pl@mas.toS salva_pl@mas.to

                                          @Linux @davidrevoy Vivaldi is Chrome in disguise. Meanwhile, @Waterfox says NO to AI and it's not a Chrome based browser.

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                                          #116

                                          @Linux @salva_pl @Waterfox @davidrevoy You need more @zenbrowser in your life

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