Mozilla right now.

@ocramius @davidrevoy I would like to point out that this account has no verified links to the Mozilla org.

@davidrevoy accurate

@Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy there is (maybe) some hope with that https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740500373677782 (and this kill switch will maybe make the job to remove it easier) but the worst thing is that (a good part of) the remaining FF devs will spend a lot of time on these features instead of improving more important things...

@coldfish @wizzwizz4 @davidrevoy try @zenbrowser based on Firefox with a policy of removing any AI functionality that is added

@davidrevoy so sad

@rival @Johns_priv @OndrejZizka
I understand you are asking for a source ? So that's what I will answer.

I've been looking for it quickly but can't find. Maybe I mixed it up with something else.
I could read the TOS when I have the time if you insist.

@davidrevoy it’s tragic

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
"Wow nice chainsaw you have in there..."

@pmiossec
That's not true Philippe. We're hiring to work on these things, this means this doesn't change what the other engineers are working on. You could say that this money could be used elsewhere, sure, but still I hope this reduces your concern.
@Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy

@davidrevoy I'm sure all Mozilla's strategy is not in any way an intentional act of self-sabotage coincident with a period of minimal regulatory oversight.

@davidrevoy I actually like how Firefox has handled AI - small local models, no spying to train AI on my data. For users who insist on using a mainstream online chatbot, it lets them do it without forcing it on others. (And there are more such users than I thought. People who I thought are way too computer illiterate to use AI surprised me by using ChatGPT.)

Firefox lets me translate text locally without big tech spying on my translations. Is this bad because it happens to use neural networks?

@davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.

@isukun @davidrevoy Luckily, Firefox is Foss, and if Mozilla screws up, other organizations may make a fork and do better (with less profit). EU could surely fund it.

@davidrevoy Perfect. Absolutely perfect.

@davidrevoy I'm currently trying out WebLibre (https://docs.weblibre.eu/), it's nice so far.

@Johns_priv This is Google deciding that maybe their slogan shouldn’t be “don’t be evil” in 2018 all over again. @OndrejZizka

@davidrevoy or capitalism overall.

@dregntael @davidrevoy I don't know if it's the best thing out there, but I've had decent luck so far with Waterfox.

@ocramius @davidrevoy Hope is one thing, but we're not worried about whether they *will* do the wrong thing in the future. They've already done it. We've been watching them do the wrong thing in real time ever since they put AI "help" in MDN, and since then they've done nothing but lean further into AI hype and dismiss any criticism.

This is what happens when your "nonprofit" gets all its money from its for-profit subsidiary. Investors love AI. Doesn't matter that they're the only ones.

@Kampfdiestel
In FF 145.0.1, just right-click anywhere, in the menue item "AI shit" i had "disable AI"
@Gynux @davidrevoy