Mozilla right now.

@davidrevoy I actually like how Firefox has handled AI - small local models, no spying to train AI on my data. For users who insist on using a mainstream online chatbot, it lets them do it without forcing it on others. (And there are more such users than I thought. People who I thought are way too computer illiterate to use AI surprised me by using ChatGPT.)

Firefox lets me translate text locally without big tech spying on my translations. Is this bad because it happens to use neural networks?

@davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.

@isukun @davidrevoy Luckily, Firefox is Foss, and if Mozilla screws up, other organizations may make a fork and do better (with less profit). EU could surely fund it.

@davidrevoy Perfect. Absolutely perfect.

@davidrevoy I'm currently trying out WebLibre (https://docs.weblibre.eu/), it's nice so far.

@Johns_priv This is Google deciding that maybe their slogan shouldn’t be “don’t be evil” in 2018 all over again. @OndrejZizka

@davidrevoy or capitalism overall.

@dregntael @davidrevoy I don't know if it's the best thing out there, but I've had decent luck so far with Waterfox.

@ocramius @davidrevoy Hope is one thing, but we're not worried about whether they *will* do the wrong thing in the future. They've already done it. We've been watching them do the wrong thing in real time ever since they put AI "help" in MDN, and since then they've done nothing but lean further into AI hype and dismiss any criticism.

This is what happens when your "nonprofit" gets all its money from its for-profit subsidiary. Investors love AI. Doesn't matter that they're the only ones.

@Kampfdiestel
In FF 145.0.1, just right-click anywhere, in the menue item "AI shit" i had "disable AI"
@Gynux @davidrevoy

@davidrevoy Yep. As a user since before it was Firefox, it’s totally disappointing.

And another in a long line decisions messing around with the frills while not dealing with the core product.

@coldfish @davidrevoy
If you're gonna use anything Chromium-based, stick to something barebones, like ungoogled.

Given that Brave's queerphobic CEO was actually the co-founder of Mozilla (EDIT: noticed somebody in the replies already pointed that out in some way or form), you could argue he's basically everything that's wrong with current day Mozilla but multiplied by two.

@CosmicHorror @wizzwizz4 @coldfish @davidrevoy 11 days. He had donated money to the campaign for Prop 8, a 2008 California referendum to ban same-sex marriage https://www.kqed.org/news/131545/mozilla-ceo-resigns-over-donation-to-prop-8-campaign

@davidrevoy Pretty sure they know they're alienating their core users, hoping to get a larger group of less privacy-savvy users.

@elgregor @davidrevoy Firefox offline translation is great. But it is absolutely not what they are marketing as "AI". At no point in time they advertised this as AI. So yeah, it's great, and it's not what they mean by adding AI. They have been advertising "ethical AI" since almost 10 years, and there zero thing to show except 35 millions spent on proprietary AI startups.

@adra Thank you!

To be fair, I could paint this one quickly because I only painted the fox and the parrot over a scene that I had already painted for Reddit when they had their API change controversy back in June 2023. The artwork is hosted somewhere in this directory: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/artworks/misc.html

@bohwaz @davidrevoy Many people (correctly) refer to this kind of features as "AI" and so do various news outlets. I have seen multiple people upset at local models and asking how to delete them. I have seen people advertise Firefox derivatives that remove the local models with the lack of those models described as a feature. I believe this mostly stems from misinformation and this is why I will keep explaining that "AI" is a very broad term that includes good things as well as bad things.

@julienw
Seeing how the AI crap already in Firefox is enabled by default and has to be disabled in about:config, no, it does not reduce my concern.
Start with opt-in for the already integrated AI crap and an easy way to disable it.

@pmiossec @Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy

@davidrevoy very accurate.

@davidrevoy
Brilliant