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  • dregntael@dice.campD dregntael@dice.camp

    @davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.

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    #62

    @davidrevoy I'm currently trying out WebLibre (https://docs.weblibre.eu/), it's nice so far.

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    • johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ johns_priv@mastodon.social

      @OndrejZizka You mean like when they changed their TOS so they could do whatever they want with your data? (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-personal-data-asks-users-not-to-panic/)

      That was when I abandoned them for Waterfox and never looked back.

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      #63

      @Johns_priv This is Google deciding that maybe their slogan shouldn’t be “don’t be evil” in 2018 all over again. @OndrejZizka

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        Mozilla right now.

        #firefox #mozilla

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        #64

        @davidrevoy or capitalism overall.

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        • dregntael@dice.campD dregntael@dice.camp

          @davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.

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          #65

          @dregntael @davidrevoy I don't know if it's the best thing out there, but I've had decent luck so far with Waterfox.

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          • ocramius@mastodon.socialO ocramius@mastodon.social

            @davidrevoy posting this here, just because there's still hope: https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740501470592801

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            #66

            @ocramius @davidrevoy Hope is one thing, but we're not worried about whether they *will* do the wrong thing in the future. They've already done it. We've been watching them do the wrong thing in real time ever since they put AI "help" in MDN, and since then they've done nothing but lean further into AI hype and dismiss any criticism.

            This is what happens when your "nonprofit" gets all its money from its for-profit subsidiary. Investors love AI. Doesn't matter that they're the only ones.

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            • kampfdiestel@mastodon.socialK kampfdiestel@mastodon.social

              @Gynux @davidrevoy
              does disabling via about:config no longer work?

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              #67

              @Kampfdiestel
              In FF 145.0.1, just right-click anywhere, in the menue item "AI shit" i had "disable AI"
              @Gynux @davidrevoy

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                Mozilla right now.

                #firefox #mozilla

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                #68

                @davidrevoy Yep. As a user since before it was Firefox, it’s totally disappointing.

                And another in a long line decisions messing around with the frills while not dealing with the core product.

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                • coldfish@sfba.socialC coldfish@sfba.social

                  @davidrevoy I changed to Brave and it's very nice..... but the default search engine still has some AI stuff, but DuckDuckGo is still there.

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                  #69

                  @coldfish @davidrevoy
                  If you're gonna use anything Chromium-based, stick to something barebones, like ungoogled.

                  Given that Brave's queerphobic CEO was actually the co-founder of Mozilla (EDIT: noticed somebody in the replies already pointed that out in some way or form), you could argue he's basically everything that's wrong with current day Mozilla but multiplied by two.

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                  • cosmichorror@fosstodon.orgC cosmichorror@fosstodon.org

                    @wizzwizz4 @coldfish @davidrevoy ironically he was also the CEO of Mozilla... for like a month

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                    #70

                    @CosmicHorror @wizzwizz4 @coldfish @davidrevoy 11 days. He had donated money to the campaign for Prop 8, a 2008 California referendum to ban same-sex marriage https://www.kqed.org/news/131545/mozilla-ceo-resigns-over-donation-to-prop-8-campaign

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Mozilla right now.

                      #firefox #mozilla

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                      #71

                      @davidrevoy Pretty sure they know they're alienating their core users, hoping to get a larger group of less privacy-savvy users.

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                      • E elgregor@social.librem.one

                        @davidrevoy I actually like how Firefox has handled AI - small local models, no spying to train AI on my data. For users who insist on using a mainstream online chatbot, it lets them do it without forcing it on others. (And there are more such users than I thought. People who I thought are way too computer illiterate to use AI surprised me by using ChatGPT.)

                        Firefox lets me translate text locally without big tech spying on my translations. Is this bad because it happens to use neural networks?

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                        #72

                        @elgregor @davidrevoy Firefox offline translation is great. But it is absolutely not what they are marketing as "AI". At no point in time they advertised this as AI. So yeah, it's great, and it's not what they mean by adding AI. They have been advertising "ethical AI" since almost 10 years, and there zero thing to show except 35 millions spent on proprietary AI startups.

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                        • adra@fedivers.alA adra@fedivers.al

                          @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org lmao you draw fast

                          also perfectly accurate
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                          #73

                          @adra Thank you! 💜

                          To be fair, I could paint this one quickly because I only painted the fox and the parrot over a scene that I had already painted for Reddit when they had their API change controversy back in June 2023. The artwork is hosted somewhere in this directory: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/artworks/misc.html

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                          • bohwaz@mamot.frB bohwaz@mamot.fr

                            @elgregor @davidrevoy Firefox offline translation is great. But it is absolutely not what they are marketing as "AI". At no point in time they advertised this as AI. So yeah, it's great, and it's not what they mean by adding AI. They have been advertising "ethical AI" since almost 10 years, and there zero thing to show except 35 millions spent on proprietary AI startups.

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                            #74

                            @bohwaz @davidrevoy Many people (correctly) refer to this kind of features as "AI" and so do various news outlets. I have seen multiple people upset at local models and asking how to delete them. I have seen people advertise Firefox derivatives that remove the local models with the lack of those models described as a feature. I believe this mostly stems from misinformation and this is why I will keep explaining that "AI" is a very broad term that includes good things as well as bad things.

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                            • julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ julienw@pouet.chapril.org

                              @pmiossec
                              That's not true Philippe. We're hiring to work on these things, this means this doesn't change what the other engineers are working on. You could say that this money could be used elsewhere, sure, but still I hope this reduces your concern.
                              @Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy

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                              #75

                              @julienw
                              Seeing how the AI crap already in Firefox is enabled by default and has to be disabled in about:config, no, it does not reduce my concern.
                              Start with opt-in for the already integrated AI crap and an easy way to disable it.

                              @pmiossec @Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                Mozilla right now.

                                #firefox #mozilla

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                                #76

                                @davidrevoy very accurate.

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  Mozilla right now.

                                  #firefox #mozilla

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                                  #77

                                  @davidrevoy
                                  Brilliant

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                                  • coldfish@sfba.socialC coldfish@sfba.social

                                    @davidrevoy I changed to Brave and it's very nice..... but the default search engine still has some AI stuff, but DuckDuckGo is still there.

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                                    #78

                                    @coldfish @davidrevoy
                                    https://mastodon.social/@utf_7/115742616343666373

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      Mozilla right now.

                                      #firefox #mozilla

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                                      #79

                                      @davidrevoy

                                      I love this. One question, is the bird a mascot for something or just a robot bird?

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        Mozilla right now.

                                        #firefox #mozilla

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                                        #80

                                        @davidrevoy @jargoggles This is so accurate 😂

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          Mozilla right now.

                                          #firefox #mozilla

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                                          #81

                                          @davidrevoy This looks so beautiful for commentary on tech!

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