Mozilla right now.
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@Linux
Also each of the 3 major Firefox forks/mods
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@TheEffekt @davidrevoy Dev Edition is, at the moment, just Firefox Nightly (although it may recive dev-focused updates earlier when those are available). @firefoxwebdevs has a Q&A style thread started with clarifying how there is going to be a “kill switch” — not just for Dev Edition, but for Firefox in general.
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@davidrevoy this is why you're my favorite
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@wizzwizz4 @coldfish @davidrevoy ironically he was also the CEO of Mozilla... for like a month
@CosmicHorror @wizzwizz4 @coldfish @davidrevoy "Too bad a CEO for Mozilla" is a hell of a burn.
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@davidrevoy posting this here, just because there's still hope: https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740501470592801
@ocramius @davidrevoy I would like to point out that this account has no verified links to the Mozilla org.
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@davidrevoy accurate
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@Gynux @davidrevoy
does disabling via about:config no longer work?@Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy there is (maybe) some hope with that https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740500373677782 (and this kill switch will maybe make the job to remove it easier) but the worst thing is that (a good part of) the remaining FF devs will spend a lot of time on these features instead of improving more important things...
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@wizzwizz4 @davidrevoy really??? Dammit. I was enjoying this thing
@coldfish @wizzwizz4 @davidrevoy try @zenbrowser based on Firefox with a policy of removing any AI functionality that is added
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@davidrevoy so sad
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@Zekovski @Johns_priv @OndrejZizka Hi, which one is that?
Thanks in advance.
@rival @Johns_priv @OndrejZizka
I understand you are asking for a source ? So that's what I will answer.I've been looking for it quickly but can't find. Maybe I mixed it up with something else.
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@davidrevoy it’s tragic
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@Kampfdiestel @Gynux @davidrevoy there is (maybe) some hope with that https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740500373677782 (and this kill switch will maybe make the job to remove it easier) but the worst thing is that (a good part of) the remaining FF devs will spend a lot of time on these features instead of improving more important things...
@pmiossec
That's not true Philippe. We're hiring to work on these things, this means this doesn't change what the other engineers are working on. You could say that this money could be used elsewhere, sure, but still I hope this reduces your concern.
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@davidrevoy I'm sure all Mozilla's strategy is not in any way an intentional act of self-sabotage coincident with a period of minimal regulatory oversight.
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@davidrevoy I actually like how Firefox has handled AI - small local models, no spying to train AI on my data. For users who insist on using a mainstream online chatbot, it lets them do it without forcing it on others. (And there are more such users than I thought. People who I thought are way too computer illiterate to use AI surprised me by using ChatGPT.)
Firefox lets me translate text locally without big tech spying on my translations. Is this bad because it happens to use neural networks?
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@davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.
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A couple of years before, Google was saying things like "Don't be Evil" while promoting a good internet for the users. Today Google is one of the biggest evil tech empire of the world.
I understand the idea of believing in something based on the experience, but everything can change and it's not bad to be aware of some things like the decisions Mozilla is doing these days.
@isukun @davidrevoy Luckily, Firefox is Foss, and if Mozilla screws up, other organizations may make a fork and do better (with less profit). EU could surely fund it.
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@davidrevoy Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
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@davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.
@davidrevoy I'm currently trying out WebLibre (https://docs.weblibre.eu/), it's nice so far.
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@OndrejZizka You mean like when they changed their TOS so they could do whatever they want with your data? (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-personal-data-asks-users-not-to-panic/)
That was when I abandoned them for Waterfox and never looked back.
@Johns_priv This is Google deciding that maybe their slogan shouldn’t be “don’t be evil” in 2018 all over again. @OndrejZizka
