This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
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Furthermore, this racist hate-monger's channel should be shut down. This is dangerous and inhumane garbage.
@axebos @riggbeck @futurebird You do understand that Ben Palmer is a satirist? He's not actually turning people in to ICE.
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@jhooper @jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird
Why do you think you could choose to be like that? What would make you do such a thing? Does entertaining the idea of pointless cruelty as an option make you more or less monstrous?
Saying "I would never do that" isn't supposed to be wishful thinking about how nice a person you are, it's supposed to be a foundational moral choice. It's not like the weather or something.
@petealexharris @jhooper @jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird
Why do you think you could choose to be like that? What would make you do such a thing?
I remember times I've talked to police in response to actual crimes, which I thought at the time was a justified decision, if unfortunate. Now, seeing what ICE does, and where they get their staff, has me wondering if what I did was that much different from what that kindergarten teacher did, morally speaking.
Being a good person requires continuous effort to improve yourself, to hold yourself to your own standards. Bad people get that way because it's so easy. I've taken the easy way out before, and I suspect you have, too.
If you WANT to be nothing like them, good for you! If you think you ARE nothing like them, that's most likely wrong in a very simple sense, since you live in this terrible society; and believing means you're not going to wonder so much about what separates you from them, exactly.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
This is legit one of the most terrible things I have ever heard since that little Palestinian girl was calling for help.
(Terrible for different reasons.)
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what? ben palmer is a comedian that's been doing stuff like this for ages:
@smattymatty @kitkat_blue @futurebird Based on many of the comments it's pretty obvious many folks haven't heard of him or what he does. I can't speak for him, but it seems to me with this project he's trying to expose horrible people for who they are and throwing their awfulness back in their faces. The teacher in this video is completely tone deaf and seems to think it's just fine to deport a child's parents separating him from them.
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@HeatherMJ @futurebird @Su_G
She particularly didn't like him saying that she didn't sound happy to hear that the people were there legally. Which was not only true, but also putting it mildly. If anything, she sounded slightly disappointed.@jargoggles
Yes, so true! She was a real piece of work!
When she wasn’t admired for dobbing in (informing against) a couple of apparently blameless parents whose child had the ‘misfortune’ to attend the kindergarten she worked at, she identified herself as the ‘victim’… of possible sarcasm… !! Truly petty, as well as a racist bigot. 
️#AUSPol #ICE #petty #racist # bigotry #informants #dobbers #victim
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird This is exactly what bigots and racists sound like when they think they’re untouchable and you’re one of them.
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What about that kid? How do you think he's doing?
@futurebird I hope she didnt get hold of a real hotline. And hope she is not the kid's direct teacher.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird This is chilling. The cold, emotionless voice (until she picks up his sarcasm—then you hear some feeling). It’s like she’s dead inside.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird The Florida neighbor one is the worst. He gives her so many opportunities to not be horrid and she refuses *all of them*.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird does anyone still wonder, how the 3rd Reich was possible? With people, doing the righteous, lawful thing? With millions and millions of murder victims. Ending in a bloody global war, WWII.
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@futurebird
I don't know who coined the phrase "banality of evil" but it really sums up this encounter.
It is truly shocking.Fittingly, and not surprisingly, it stems from the Holocaust.
Taken from #wikipedia :
'"Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil" is a 1963 book by the philosopher and political thinker Hannah Arendt. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Hitler's rise to power, reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann, one of the major organizers of the Holocaust....
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E energisch_@troet.cafe shared this topic
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Fittingly, and not surprisingly, it stems from the Holocaust.
Taken from #wikipedia :
'"Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil" is a 1963 book by the philosopher and political thinker Hannah Arendt. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Hitler's rise to power, reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann, one of the major organizers of the Holocaust....
'Her thesis is that Eichmann was actually not a fanatic or a sociopath, but an average & mundane person who relied on clichéd defenses rather than thinking for himself, was motivated by professional promotion rather than ideology, and believed in success which he considered the chief standard of "good society". Banality, in this sense, doesn't mean his actions were in any way ordinary, but that they were motivated by a sort of complacency which was wholly unexceptional.'
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Is not like they call in, crying and in distress having been menaced by some horrible gang— no it’s a literal child trying their best to learn the damn alphabet— and this lady is like “oh he’s kinda different better call the government”
@futurebird but it's a great idea, a honey pot for fascists - to make them realize what ugly attitude they have. It might work with some people to reflect what they've been thinking, doing.
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@axebos @riggbeck @futurebird You do understand that Ben Palmer is a satirist? He's not actually turning people in to ICE.
@PattyHanson @riggbeck @futurebird
Okey. In the film clip, it looks more like he's spreading racist content...
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@aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase
The worst thing I ever heard a teacher say about students was this veteran NYC public school teacher in the Bronx who said "well you know they are from the crack baby generation that's why they can't concentrate"
No. They can't concentrate because they are 6th graders in a class with 32 students.
That is too many sixth graders. Have you met one? I have. Under 20 ALWAYS.
I yelled at him and he walked it back.
@aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase @futurebird I had 17 x 7th graders in a really rough place. That was hard enough. I honestly can't imagine 32?!?!?! Jeeeeeez.
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'Her thesis is that Eichmann was actually not a fanatic or a sociopath, but an average & mundane person who relied on clichéd defenses rather than thinking for himself, was motivated by professional promotion rather than ideology, and believed in success which he considered the chief standard of "good society". Banality, in this sense, doesn't mean his actions were in any way ordinary, but that they were motivated by a sort of complacency which was wholly unexceptional.'
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@edgeofeurope @futurebird Actually the people who ran the Nazi camps were not ordinary people, they were hardcore followers. And they didn't just obeyed "superior orders", they made the decisions they rightfully assumed were required the whole nazi project. Not to say ordinary people played no part, of course. But what Arendt called "banality of evil" is quite misleading.
@ratel @edgeofeurope @futurebird
We shouldn't underestimate the part ordinary people played.
When ~ 300 Sowiet inmates fled concentration camp Mauthausen in February 1945, part of them asked for help at local farms and most were reported.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird "you make it sound terrible" jesus christ, not a hint of self-awareness.
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@Mab_813 @edgeofeurope @futurebird The fact that people back then knew way more than they said afterwards (as P. Longerich showed) and that consequently they did play a part in all this (out of cruelty, opportunism and - often silent - acceptance) doesn't mean there aren't a few critical steps from being an ordinary citizen to being one of those defining the rules. It's an important fact if one is to grasp how decision making in highest level and widespread complicity were working together.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
“How could ordinary Germans act that way?“ said white Americans unironically.
