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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

    He records them and shares it with the world.

    What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

    Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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    #166

    @futurebird

    Bravo!!

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase

      The worst thing I ever heard a teacher say about students was this veteran NYC public school teacher in the Bronx who said "well you know they are from the crack baby generation that's why they can't concentrate"

      No. They can't concentrate because they are 6th graders in a class with 32 students.

      That is too many sixth graders. Have you met one? I have. Under 20 ALWAYS.

      I yelled at him and he walked it back.

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      #167

      @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase @futurebird I known a few teachers more from smaller towns in the midwest, and while generally less racist /conservative than others in that zone, I could definitely still see some of them falling into taxpayerism type thinking where that metality fuels their latent racism

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

        He records them and shares it with the world.

        What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

        Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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        #168

        @futurebird No words

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

          He records them and shares it with the world.

          What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

          Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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          #169

          @futurebird Ben Palmer is a national treasure. If you've never watched his videos or if you're not familiar with what he does, it's worth it to take some time and look him up.

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          • axebos@mastodon.socialA axebos@mastodon.social

            @riggbeck @futurebird

            Furthermore, this racist hate-monger's channel should be shut down. This is dangerous and inhumane garbage.

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            #170

            @axebos @riggbeck @futurebird You do understand that Ben Palmer is a satirist? He's not actually turning people in to ICE.

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            • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

              @jhooper @jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird

              Why do you think you could choose to be like that? What would make you do such a thing? Does entertaining the idea of pointless cruelty as an option make you more or less monstrous?

              Saying "I would never do that" isn't supposed to be wishful thinking about how nice a person you are, it's supposed to be a foundational moral choice. It's not like the weather or something.

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              #171

              @petealexharris @jhooper @jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird

              Why do you think you could choose to be like that? What would make you do such a thing?

              I remember times I've talked to police in response to actual crimes, which I thought at the time was a justified decision, if unfortunate. Now, seeing what ICE does, and where they get their staff, has me wondering if what I did was that much different from what that kindergarten teacher did, morally speaking.

              Being a good person requires continuous effort to improve yourself, to hold yourself to your own standards. Bad people get that way because it's so easy. I've taken the easy way out before, and I suspect you have, too.

              If you WANT to be nothing like them, good for you! If you think you ARE nothing like them, that's most likely wrong in a very simple sense, since you live in this terrible society; and believing means you're not going to wonder so much about what separates you from them, exactly.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                He records them and shares it with the world.

                What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                #172

                @futurebird

                This is legit one of the most terrible things I have ever heard since that little Palestinian girl was calling for help.

                (Terrible for different reasons.)

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                • smattymatty@socialontario.caS smattymatty@socialontario.ca

                  @kitkat_blue @futurebird

                  what? ben palmer is a comedian that's been doing stuff like this for ages:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBUxxGntI5s

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                  #173

                  @smattymatty @kitkat_blue @futurebird Based on many of the comments it's pretty obvious many folks haven't heard of him or what he does. I can't speak for him, but it seems to me with this project he's trying to expose horrible people for who they are and throwing their awfulness back in their faces. The teacher in this video is completely tone deaf and seems to think it's just fine to deport a child's parents separating him from them.

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                  • jargoggles@kolektiva.socialJ jargoggles@kolektiva.social

                    @HeatherMJ @futurebird @Su_G
                    She particularly didn't like him saying that she didn't sound happy to hear that the people were there legally. Which was not only true, but also putting it mildly. If anything, she sounded slightly disappointed.

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                    #174

                    @jargoggles
                    Yes, so true! She was a real piece of work! 😐When she wasn’t admired for dobbing in (informing against) a couple of apparently blameless parents whose child had the ‘misfortune’ to attend the kindergarten she worked at, she identified herself as the ‘victim’… of possible sarcasm… !! Truly petty, as well as a racist bigot. ☹️

                    #AUSPol #ICE #petty #racist # bigotry #informants #dobbers #victim

                    @HeatherMJ @futurebird

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                      He records them and shares it with the world.

                      What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                      Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                      #175

                      @futurebird This is exactly what bigots and racists sound like when they think they’re untouchable and you’re one of them.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        @Scofisticated

                        What about that kid? How do you think he's doing?

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                        #176

                        @futurebird I hope she didnt get hold of a real hotline. And hope she is not the kid's direct teacher.

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                          He records them and shares it with the world.

                          What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                          Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                          #177

                          @futurebird This is chilling. The cold, emotionless voice (until she picks up his sarcasm—then you hear some feeling). It’s like she’s dead inside.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                            He records them and shares it with the world.

                            What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                            Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                            #178

                            @futurebird The Florida neighbor one is the worst. He gives her so many opportunities to not be horrid and she refuses *all of them*.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                              He records them and shares it with the world.

                              What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                              Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                              #179

                              @futurebird does anyone still wonder, how the 3rd Reich was possible? With people, doing the righteous, lawful thing? With millions and millions of murder victims. Ending in a bloody global war, WWII.

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                              • fud4thort@mastodonapp.ukF fud4thort@mastodonapp.uk

                                @futurebird
                                I don't know who coined the phrase "banality of evil" but it really sums up this encounter.
                                It is truly shocking.

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                                #180

                                @Fud4thort @futurebird

                                Fittingly, and not surprisingly, it stems from the Holocaust.

                                Taken from #wikipedia :

                                '"Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil" is a 1963 book by the philosopher and political thinker Hannah Arendt. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Hitler's rise to power, reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann, one of the major organizers of the Holocaust....

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                                • incognitim@mastodon.socialI incognitim@mastodon.social

                                  @Fud4thort @futurebird

                                  Fittingly, and not surprisingly, it stems from the Holocaust.

                                  Taken from #wikipedia :

                                  '"Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil" is a 1963 book by the philosopher and political thinker Hannah Arendt. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Hitler's rise to power, reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann, one of the major organizers of the Holocaust....

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                                  #181

                                  @Fud4thort @futurebird

                                  'Her thesis is that Eichmann was actually not a fanatic or a sociopath, but an average & mundane person who relied on clichéd defenses rather than thinking for himself, was motivated by professional promotion rather than ideology, and believed in success which he considered the chief standard of "good society". Banality, in this sense, doesn't mean his actions were in any way ordinary, but that they were motivated by a sort of complacency which was wholly unexceptional.'

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    Is not like they call in, crying and in distress having been menaced by some horrible gang— no it’s a literal child trying their best to learn the damn alphabet— and this lady is like “oh he’s kinda different better call the government”

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                                    #182

                                    @futurebird but it's a great idea, a honey pot for fascists - to make them realize what ugly attitude they have. It might work with some people to reflect what they've been thinking, doing.

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                                    • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

                                      @axebos @riggbeck @futurebird You do understand that Ben Palmer is a satirist? He's not actually turning people in to ICE.

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                                      #183

                                      @PattyHanson @riggbeck @futurebird

                                      Okey. In the film clip, it looks more like he's spreading racist content...

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        @aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase

                                        The worst thing I ever heard a teacher say about students was this veteran NYC public school teacher in the Bronx who said "well you know they are from the crack baby generation that's why they can't concentrate"

                                        No. They can't concentrate because they are 6th graders in a class with 32 students.

                                        That is too many sixth graders. Have you met one? I have. Under 20 ALWAYS.

                                        I yelled at him and he walked it back.

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                                        #184

                                        @aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase @futurebird I had 17 x 7th graders in a really rough place. That was hard enough. I honestly can't imagine 32?!?!?! Jeeeeeez.

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                                        • incognitim@mastodon.socialI incognitim@mastodon.social

                                          @Fud4thort @futurebird

                                          'Her thesis is that Eichmann was actually not a fanatic or a sociopath, but an average & mundane person who relied on clichéd defenses rather than thinking for himself, was motivated by professional promotion rather than ideology, and believed in success which he considered the chief standard of "good society". Banality, in this sense, doesn't mean his actions were in any way ordinary, but that they were motivated by a sort of complacency which was wholly unexceptional.'

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                                          #185

                                          @Incognitim @Fud4thort @futurebird

                                          https://fediscience.org/@martinvermeer/114516000200743457

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