Imagine a stranger spreads lies about you.

@Miname @FediTips Trusting people to distinguish fact from fiction is what put Trump in power

@alex
Bluesky as in the next oppressive and corrupt police state (because they apparently have centralized moderation).

It wasnt a sincere suggestion but an explanation of why oppressing your fellow people does not work but the conditions need to change. As in bluesky is what happens when you try to solve an issue with more instead of less oppression.

As I said, fanon wrote about this. Alexandra Kollontai did too in "the social basis of the woman question"
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@circuitsunfish
It was not a sincere suggestion but a way to explain what meeting oppression with oppression leads to. If one wants to oppress others more to have less oppression themselves, they get corrupt policestate aka bluesky.

That is why the answer is joining an org and changing the system. Join a socialist org near you today.
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@Energetic_Nova @FediTips @e_t_wright @roknrol I am left, and have only ever voted for Democrats, but your statement is bigotry. Casting aside anyone who doesn’t agree with Democrats is the definition of bigotry to a T. @FediTips your heart is in the right place, but I fear your solution only leads to more problems and misuse for political warfare.

@imbl @FediTips This was one of the flaws I was mentioning @FediTips There is nothing from stopping those people from using the system you have envisioned against you and abusing it. Especially as you say these people are able to gather large followings and get them to believe lies. So nothing is stopping them from lying and using the controls you want.

@imbl

As far as I know I haven't suggested any specific blocklists, I've suggested people go to Oliphant's list of blocklists and see which of those lists is a fit for their server.

Are you saying Oliphant is problematic or have I misunderstood?

@DestructoDisk @imbl

There ARE things stopping people from abusing the system, for example many of the blocklists have voting systems to prevent an individual adding stuff maliciously.

None of these methods are perfect, but it would be even worse to have no blocklist at all.

That's why I suggest admins look at the blocklists and their methodologies and choose the list(s) they feel are best and most reliable.

@itzpingcat

AFAIK Nostr isn't part of the Fediverse. If there's a bridge, you can defederate the bridge.

@Orb2069 @tauon @klefstadmyr

Yup, if a server hosts a bigot and knows what they're up to but refuses to remove their account, the next step is to tell your own admin about this so they can consider defederating the rogue server.

@ahltorp @djwfyi

It's another reason why it's important to report bigotry and abuse even when it doesn't involve you directly, because the abuser may be hiding it from the victim.

(And of course people should be reporting abuse anyway as an act of solidarity.)

@tauon @FediTips It wasn't a suggestion, it was a question.

@Cappyjax @FediTips so you basically are questioning the ability of critical thinking of the majority of your people? If so, trying to solve the initial problem with a maybe technical approach, would be fighting the symptoms instead of the root cause. Because the problem is then, that people more or less solely decide based on trust. Why they do that must be researched like maybe lack of education, the design of social media, cultural background, etc.

@Energetic_Nova @tauon @FediTips

That's not good. Regrets.

@FediTips @Orb2069 @tauon @klefstadmyr

Nice theory. "Don't tell us how to do moderation."

@Energetic_Nova @FediTips @e_t_wright @roknrol that's just horrible!

You are aware that there are many better moderated instances around? Mastodon.social has a pretty bad name, it's just too big to block for most servers. It's definitely worth looking around, if you're not doing that already.

@FediTips, the main thing is not to turn out to be a bigot yourself, a bigot who blocks people simply for dissent. And it is important to remember that the main threat to the free Internet and freedom in general is not misguided people, but monopolies and the politicians who serve them.

@mees @FediTips @e_t_wright @roknrol

They said I was insulting people when I told them I hated them… but they called me illiterate. Which was an intelligence based insult… I dont think telling people you hate them for ruining their life is “insulting”. I think that is something else entirely. Its an emotion which I expressed. Which is not an insult. Its a feeling….

@tirf @FediTips

All too often bigots hide their bigotry as "dissent". "I'm not a bigot, I just have a different opinion about the right of disabled people to live a life in dignity." And then they DARVO if they are blocked or reported or called out.

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@itzpingcat@sakurajima.moe why can't you defederate nostr? /Genq

We were able to block them by defederating all the bridges, and that's worked perfectly ever since.