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  • S socialism_everyday@reddthat.com

    You are saying this on the day that the USA is illegally invading Venezuela and kidnapping their president. Where are European values? Where are the heavy condemnations of this?

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    f04118f@feddit.nl
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    #54

    I only just caught up on that. Absolutely disgusting. I continue to be deeply disappointed in current European leadership.

    Vote Volt!

    https://piefed.social/c/europe/p/1618638/who-is-this-politician-more-pro-european-tech-voices-in-the-eu-assembly-thank-you

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    • F f04118f@feddit.nl

      I only just caught up on that. Absolutely disgusting. I continue to be deeply disappointed in current European leadership.

      Vote Volt!

      https://piefed.social/c/europe/p/1618638/who-is-this-politician-more-pro-european-tech-voices-in-the-eu-assembly-thank-you

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      socialism_everyday@reddthat.com
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      #55

      How is Volt, a militaristic Eurocentrist party, going to do ANYTHING against US invasion of sovereign countries.

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      • S socialism_everyday@reddthat.com

        Where are the strong political condemnations from the EU or economic sanctions to the US for the invasion of a foreign country?

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        redacted@infosec.pub
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        #56

        Are you seriously asking why EU sides with US instead of Maduro regime?

        So far I see only Russia, Iran and China defending Maduro.

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        • W wltr@discuss.tchncs.de

          That’s ironic, in a way, that there’s no Ukraine among those flags. Adding it would actually make the EU much stronger. A real life modern war experience (literally the most experienced country on the planet), plus the biggest country in Europe. With quite a large international community of emigrants (due to harsh historical circumstances). Plus experience filtering Russian propaganda, which is quite strong and influential (for those unaware).

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          scrollone@feddit.it
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          #57

          I agree that Ukraine would be a good addition to the EU (I hope that both the war and the EU join process will finish), but this meme is just about the EU not being a federation yet, so there's no reason to add the Ukrainian flag now.

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          • R redacted@infosec.pub

            Are you seriously asking why EU sides with US instead of Maduro regime?

            So far I see only Russia, Iran and China defending Maduro.

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            socialism_everyday@reddthat.com
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            #58

            Colombia and Brazil are defending Maduro.

            And yes, I'm asking why Europe sides with the US in the glaringly illegal abduction of a foreign president

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            • S socialism_everyday@reddthat.com

              Colombia and Brazil are defending Maduro.

              And yes, I'm asking why Europe sides with the US in the glaringly illegal abduction of a foreign president

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              redacted@infosec.pub
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              #59

              People (note that I'm saying people, not whatever authoritarian figure you simp for) are celebrating this, from Brazil, to Colombia, and in Venezuela. Get a grip.

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              • S scrollone@feddit.it

                I agree that Ukraine would be a good addition to the EU (I hope that both the war and the EU join process will finish), but this meme is just about the EU not being a federation yet, so there's no reason to add the Ukrainian flag now.

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                wltr@discuss.tchncs.de
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                #60

                I’m not sure on the federation thing (I just don’t understand how it would work for the EU), but I’m 100% sure when Russia would become a set of independent states (and not a federation it pretends it is), global terrorism would just go incredibly less, within one day, literally. They contribute to global chaos quite a lot. Especially backed by PRC and the US (administration) being a Russian puppet.

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                • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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                  vonskinnback@mastodon.social
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                  #61

                  @Sunshine it always drives me mad that people cheer the individual, the strong standing alone & free, but nobody pays attention to who is pushing this narrative, the fact is every billionaire, millionaire and huge corporate behemoth is only able to drive their will & want through shear collective power, due to their size & influence. I wonder how long it will take for this penny to drop & how much we will have left to fight for by the time it finally does...

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                    menas@lemmy.wtf
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                    #62

                    Yep, get stronger to face threat, that how imperialism work
                    Fuck those states, everyone of them

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                    • R redacted@infosec.pub

                      People (note that I'm saying people, not whatever authoritarian figure you simp for) are celebrating this, from Brazil, to Colombia, and in Venezuela. Get a grip.

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                      socialism_everyday@reddthat.com
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                      #63

                      Hahahaha Lula da Silva and Gustavo Petro, the democratically elected prime ministers of both countries, are authoritarian figures. Average European lmfao

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                      • W wltr@discuss.tchncs.de

                        I’m not sure on the federation thing (I just don’t understand how it would work for the EU), but I’m 100% sure when Russia would become a set of independent states (and not a federation it pretends it is), global terrorism would just go incredibly less, within one day, literally. They contribute to global chaos quite a lot. Especially backed by PRC and the US (administration) being a Russian puppet.

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                        alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                        #64

                        So when the US trained and armed terrorists all over the world under every previous administration, was it still due to orders to the Kremlin? Or did the Kremlin order the Trump administration to do the thing we've been doing for a century?

                        Putin: Agent Trump, we need you to genocide Muslims, overthrow governments in South America, prepare for war with communists, and oppress brown people back home.

                        Trump: Don't tell me how to do my fucking job.

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                        • S socialism_everyday@reddthat.com

                          Hahahaha Lula da Silva and Gustavo Petro, the democratically elected prime ministers of both countries, are authoritarian figures. Average European lmfao

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                          redacted@infosec.pub
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                          #65

                          Then maybe obviously I meant it as "authority", not "dictatorship"? What people want versus what the higher ups want. Police is also authority. That word has multiple definitions my dude. Context matters.

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                          • W wltr@discuss.tchncs.de

                            That’s ironic, in a way, that there’s no Ukraine among those flags. Adding it would actually make the EU much stronger. A real life modern war experience (literally the most experienced country on the planet), plus the biggest country in Europe. With quite a large international community of emigrants (due to harsh historical circumstances). Plus experience filtering Russian propaganda, which is quite strong and influential (for those unaware).

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                            foo@feddit.uk
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                            #66

                            Putin also knows how strong Europe would be with Ukraine, which is likely why he is so hell bent on destabilising the bloc and taking Ukraine for himself. The sad part is it seems to be working for him. Even if he doesn't get Ukraine the way he hoped, the campaign to destabilise the bloc is worrying.

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                            • M menas@lemmy.wtf

                              Yep, get stronger to face threat, that how imperialism work
                              Fuck those states, everyone of them

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                              foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev
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                              #67

                              so you submit to the empire that rules you…

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                              • R redacted@infosec.pub

                                Then maybe obviously I meant it as "authority", not "dictatorship"? What people want versus what the higher ups want. Police is also authority. That word has multiple definitions my dude. Context matters.

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                                socialism_everyday@reddthat.com
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                                #68

                                Authority is a different word from authoritarian, and you clearly used the latter. You're the one bringing up which country does or doesn't support Maduro, so don't try to scurry out of it.

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                                • F foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev

                                  so you submit to the empire that rules you…

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                                  menas@lemmy.wtf
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                                  #69

                                  No, I'm organized against without the support or supporting others

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                                  • S socialism_everyday@reddthat.com

                                    Authority is a different word from authoritarian, and you clearly used the latter. You're the one bringing up which country does or doesn't support Maduro, so don't try to scurry out of it.

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                                    redacted@infosec.pub
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                                    #70

                                    Please re-read my comment. I don't know what else to tell you.

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                                    • R redacted@infosec.pub

                                      Please re-read my comment. I don't know what else to tell you.

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                                      socialism_everyday@reddthat.com
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                                      #71

                                      There is no definition of "authoritarian" as "authority" in common English language, you're trying to redefine words. The word you mean is "authority figure" or "authoritative".

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                                      • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.comA alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        OK so you are a evronationalist militarist, nice to know there are so many right-wingers on Lemmy now... ( ,,⩌'︿'⩌,,)

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                                        noja@sopuli.xyz
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                                        #72

                                        Ironic comment because almost all anti-EU people in Europe are far-right.

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                                        • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          Most eurolibs would happily allow European imperialism and justify it by arguing if they didn't do it someone else would

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                                          noja@sopuli.xyz
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                                          #73

                                          Is this "European imperialism" in the room with us right now?

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