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I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶ He's completely lost the plot.

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  • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

    I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
    He's completely lost the plot.

    He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

    He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
    (Norway ≠ Denmark).

    These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

    If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

    Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
    https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

    #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #52

    @xtaldave I have problems with the narrative of #dementia because it takes all responsability from #Trump.

    He *always* had a bad, very exploiting, ruthless character, and now, with the death-cult of fascism, it becomes worse. It's not a sudden illness, no sign for dementia.

    He is fully responsable, state him responsable, fine him, impeach him!
    It's also all the puppeteers behind him, he doesn't act alone.
    And if you search for a mental disorder: pathological narcissm would fit much better.

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    • fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF fedithing@social.chinwag.org

      @xtaldave

      It's not just the content of this that is a concern, but the fact that it clearly hasn't gone through any kind of filtering by his advisors.

      Heads of government in any country are typically part of a team and their comms go through a stack of advisors to make sure it does what it aims to do, and doesn't accidentally do something unexpected.

      Trump doesn't seem to be doing this at all, he's treating governmental comms like a personal Twitter account and using similar speech patterns and rants. This is really dangerous, it could cause unintended consequences especially if it comes to wars or military confrontations.

      naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #53

      @FediThing He did that already in his first term and people only grinned about it.
      @xtaldave

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      • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

        I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
        He's completely lost the plot.

        He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

        He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
        (Norway ≠ Denmark).

        These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

        If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

        Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
        https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

        #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

        spinni81@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #54

        @xtaldave At this point playing chess with a pigeon seems a more reasonable choice than dealing with this man.

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        • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

          I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
          He's completely lost the plot.

          He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

          He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
          (Norway ≠ Denmark).

          These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

          If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

          Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
          https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

          #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

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          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
          #55

          @xtaldave Trumpistan is run by someone who clearly has dementia and has never understood that the truth is not just his opinion. He's a joke, and has made the USA a global laughing stock, especially to Putin and China. But he is surrounded by sycophants and between them they have a lot of weapons. Not good at all.

          If he really wanted the remove threats to global peace he'd stop being Putin's pussy. Not sure why the media are not reminding him of this...

          Time to dump US bonds.

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          • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

            @FediThing He did that already in his first term and people only grinned about it.
            @xtaldave

            fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
            fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
            fedithing@social.chinwag.org
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            #56

            @NatureMC @xtaldave

            I think some people hoped that Trump's weird public style was just for the benefit of his voters.

            If he's doing this same thing in private comms with heads of governments in situations that could potentially lead to war, that's squashing the hope people had about it being just for show. He's clearly just totally out of his depth and refuses to admit or care about this fact.

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            • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

              I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
              He's completely lost the plot.

              He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

              He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
              (Norway ≠ Denmark).

              These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

              If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

              Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
              https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

              #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

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              lies_das@digitalcourage.social
              schrieb zuletzt editiert von
              #57

              @xtaldave
              Please, please tell me it's a joke

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              • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

                I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
                He's completely lost the plot.

                He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

                He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
                (Norway ≠ Denmark).

                These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

                If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

                Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
                https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

                #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

                matv1@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                matv1@mastodon.social
                schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                #58

                @xtaldave

                "I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace"

                For those of us ( @EUCommission ) having trouble grasping the meaning of this:
                It is a declaration of war from Trump on the #EU

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                • matv1@mastodon.socialM matv1@mastodon.social

                  @xtaldave

                  "I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace"

                  For those of us ( @EUCommission ) having trouble grasping the meaning of this:
                  It is a declaration of war from Trump on the #EU

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                  veza85ue@eupolicy.social
                  schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                  #59

                  @matv1 @xtaldave The EU Commission will have 0 say in this. It is a civil service executing the orders of #WTFisTheCouncil
                  Any decision on this matter will be taken by the Actual Executive of the EU, the European Council. I realise they're not on Mastodon, but there's no point @ ing the Commission.

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                  • fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF fedithing@social.chinwag.org

                    @NatureMC @xtaldave

                    I think some people hoped that Trump's weird public style was just for the benefit of his voters.

                    If he's doing this same thing in private comms with heads of governments in situations that could potentially lead to war, that's squashing the hope people had about it being just for show. He's clearly just totally out of his depth and refuses to admit or care about this fact.

                    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                    #60

                    @FediThing He did this always, very famously in interviews. The public didn't notice this so much because the texts were polished/edited.

                    Until some media outlets, such as The Guardian, published the full, uncorrected transcript. They showed the whole desaster! He can't have dementia for so long. 😉

                    The problem is now: He posts without proofreading. He no longer allows anyone to correct him.
                    And yes, he's a danger for the world, for peace, and future. But the rest of the gov, too!

                    @xtaldave

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                    • veza85ue@eupolicy.socialV veza85ue@eupolicy.social

                      @matv1 @xtaldave The EU Commission will have 0 say in this. It is a civil service executing the orders of #WTFisTheCouncil
                      Any decision on this matter will be taken by the Actual Executive of the EU, the European Council. I realise they're not on Mastodon, but there's no point @ ing the Commission.

                      matv1@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      matv1@mastodon.social
                      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                      #61

                      @Veza85UE @xtaldave Apart from some MEP's on here, it is the only thing I have.

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                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                        @FediThing He did this always, very famously in interviews. The public didn't notice this so much because the texts were polished/edited.

                        Until some media outlets, such as The Guardian, published the full, uncorrected transcript. They showed the whole desaster! He can't have dementia for so long. 😉

                        The problem is now: He posts without proofreading. He no longer allows anyone to correct him.
                        And yes, he's a danger for the world, for peace, and future. But the rest of the gov, too!

                        @xtaldave

                        fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        fedithing@social.chinwag.org
                        schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                        #62

                        @NatureMC @xtaldave

                        There was some hope he left actual private government-to-government communications to more sensible advisors, but apparently he doesn't.

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                        • fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF fedithing@social.chinwag.org

                          @NatureMC @xtaldave

                          There was some hope he left actual private government-to-government communications to more sensible advisors, but apparently he doesn't.

                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          naturemc@mastodon.online
                          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                          #63

                          @FediThing Well, I never had hope about him. 😉 @xtaldave

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                          • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

                            I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
                            He's completely lost the plot.

                            He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

                            He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
                            (Norway ≠ Denmark).

                            These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

                            If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

                            Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
                            https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

                            #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

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                            #64

                            @xtaldave The US had boats that landed in Greenland long before the US existed?

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                            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                              @FediThing Well, I never had hope about him. 😉 @xtaldave

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                              #65

                              @NatureMC @xtaldave

                              Oh no me neither, but some people have a default assumption that people in power must all be somehow secretly clever 😞

                              It's not helped by the media refusing to make leaders look stupid even when they do stupid things.

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                              • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

                                I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
                                He's completely lost the plot.

                                He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

                                He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
                                (Norway ≠ Denmark).

                                These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

                                If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

                                Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
                                https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

                                #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

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                                #66

                                @xtaldave The ramblings of a demented, fat, old man

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                                • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

                                  I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
                                  He's completely lost the plot.

                                  He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

                                  He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
                                  (Norway ≠ Denmark).

                                  These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

                                  If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

                                  Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
                                  https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

                                  #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

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                                  #67

                                  @xtaldave Note that in this spasm of dementia Trump's reiteration of the notion that #Denmark has ownership of #Greenland because a boat landed there hundreds of years ago betrays his 19th century convictions that one nation can own another and that the people who live in Greenland have no right to determine their own future. #Trump

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                                  • fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF fedithing@social.chinwag.org

                                    @NatureMC @xtaldave

                                    Oh no me neither, but some people have a default assumption that people in power must all be somehow secretly clever 😞

                                    It's not helped by the media refusing to make leaders look stupid even when they do stupid things.

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                                    #68

                                    @FediThing Never say "THE media" to a journalist. 😈 Perhaps US-Media are meanwhile quite adjusted but there are media showing him (and other freaks) in full reality! (I just talked about the coup by The Guardian, even the BBC did it).

                                    @xtaldave

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                                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                      @FediThing Never say "THE media" to a journalist. 😈 Perhaps US-Media are meanwhile quite adjusted but there are media showing him (and other freaks) in full reality! (I just talked about the coup by The Guardian, even the BBC did it).

                                      @xtaldave

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                                      #69

                                      @NatureMC @xtaldave

                                      Fair enough! 😁 I meant... not *enough* of the media are willing to show leaders as they are, possibly due to "access journalism".

                                      There are good parts of the media too!

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                                      • xtaldave@social.vivaldi.netX xtaldave@social.vivaldi.net

                                        I̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶u̶i̶n̶e̶*̶
                                        He's completely lost the plot.

                                        He's blaming the PM of Norway for him not getting the Nobel Prize (Nobel ≠ Norwegian govt).

                                        He thinks that Norway has control over what Denmark does with Greenland.
                                        (Norway ≠ Denmark).

                                        These are the deranged ramblings of a demented old man.

                                        If there are any grown-ups left in America, now is the time to take back the wheel.

                                        Edit: Norwegian state broadcaster confirms
                                        https://www.nrk.no/urix/trump-med-ny-gronland-melding_-_-na-er-tiden-inne-1.17733081

                                        #Greenland #Norway #Denmark

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                                        #70

                                        @xtaldave There are written documents, though. The U.S. agreed to let Denmark have Greenland in exchange for the U.S. Virgin Islands.

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                                        • hyc@mastodon.socialH hyc@mastodon.social

                                          @xtaldave not to mention the Treaty of the Danish West Indies
                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies

                                          "During 1916, the two sides agreed to a sale price of $25,000,000, and the United States accepted a Danish demand for a declaration stating that they would "not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland".[12]"

                                          So yes, there *are* written documents, which the US ratified.

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                                          #71

                                          @hyc @xtaldave Yeah, but who gives a crap about their signatures on documents these days... not the US.

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