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Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

    Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

    In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

    Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

    You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

    "Journalism" today

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    #35

    @_elena @Gargron I foresee all those blind lemmings who left centralised platform X because one person started pulling the strings there with an undesirable fascist result, and then fled to a similar centralised platform, Bluesky, where ICE is suddenly allowed, now fleeing again to yet another centralised platform, W, only to find out in a few years' time that it's the same shit.

    Donkeys don't stumble over the same stone twice!

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

      Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

      In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

      Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

      You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

      "Journalism" today

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      #36

      @_elena @Gargron

      Humans make mistakes.

      Here is a page where you can write him. They will probably mention the mistake and correct it in another podcast:

      https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/contact

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

        my mother was a reporter and editor. she got me a part time job in high school at her newspaper

        i've watched her work since i was in diapers and so i understand through her time pressure in journalism

        but that is no defense for shoddy work

        nor do people just forget

        in fact the lies, intentional or unintentional, that appear in the press have debilitating effects on the common perception of truth

        naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #37

        @benroyce
        We *completely* agree!

        France Culture was repeatedly in the headlines until 2023 due to despotic conditions towards employees/political influence (and also financial difficulties):
        https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_Culture#Directions
        With the new boss, a lot seems to have improved. But I have seen their reporters at local appointments who were unprepared and wanted to finish as quickly as possible. And therefore, reporting mistakes. 🙄

        @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

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        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

          @benroyce
          We *completely* agree!

          France Culture was repeatedly in the headlines until 2023 due to despotic conditions towards employees/political influence (and also financial difficulties):
          https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_Culture#Directions
          With the new boss, a lot seems to have improved. But I have seen their reporters at local appointments who were unprepared and wanted to finish as quickly as possible. And therefore, reporting mistakes. 🙄

          @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

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          #38

          @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

          oof

          thanks for the info

          we need nonprofit alternatives to journalism, badly

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

            Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

            In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

            Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

            You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

            "Journalism" today

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            #39
            I also hate the French press. It's impossible to clean. #☕️
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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

              Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

              In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

              Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

              You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

              "Journalism" today

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              nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social
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              #40

              @_elena @imacrea
              C’est un problème quand on doit écrire l’article si vite qu’on n’a même pas le temps de faire des recherches correctes. Le “journalisme” moderne est inutile.

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              • N nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social

                @_elena @imacrea
                C’est un problème quand on doit écrire l’article si vite qu’on n’a même pas le temps de faire des recherches correctes. Le “journalisme” moderne est inutile.

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                nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social
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                #41

                @_elena @imacrea

                In November 2025, Eugen Rochko stepped down as Mastodon CEO, and he transferred the trademark and assets to Mastodon. He did NOT cancel his account or any instances. It’s still there. The “journalist” could have check.
                https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/my-next-chapter-with-mastodon

                In January 2026, he opted his Mastodon account out of the Bluesky bridge. This was supposedly because of the user behavior at Bsky. But I cannot find a direct statement about him leaving because of users.
                https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115912977448929626

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

                  my mother was a reporter and editor. she got me a part time job in high school at her newspaper

                  i've watched her work since i was in diapers and so i understand through her time pressure in journalism

                  but that is no defense for shoddy work

                  nor do people just forget

                  in fact the lies, intentional or unintentional, that appear in the press have debilitating effects on the common perception of truth

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  _elena@mastodon.social
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                  #42

                  @benroyce worth mentioning your Neil Postman connection too Ben for the extra cred 😉

                  The LinkedIn profile of that French journalist is really alarming because he's been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published several books on tech. He's a radio producer and host. It's shocking that he would share such blatant lies. Shocking I tell you!

                  He even has a Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Saltiel

                  @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

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                  • N nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social

                    @_elena @imacrea

                    In November 2025, Eugen Rochko stepped down as Mastodon CEO, and he transferred the trademark and assets to Mastodon. He did NOT cancel his account or any instances. It’s still there. The “journalist” could have check.
                    https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/my-next-chapter-with-mastodon

                    In January 2026, he opted his Mastodon account out of the Bluesky bridge. This was supposedly because of the user behavior at Bsky. But I cannot find a direct statement about him leaving because of users.
                    https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115912977448929626

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    _elena@mastodon.social
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                    #43

                    @NickBergenComputerQuest you can't "find a direct statement about him leaving because of users" because it's a complete fabrication by that so-called journalist / radio host.

                    I repeat, a complete fabrication. And my jaw is still on the floor.

                    Thank you @imacrea for bringing to our attention that shocking paragraph

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      @NickBergenComputerQuest you can't "find a direct statement about him leaving because of users" because it's a complete fabrication by that so-called journalist / radio host.

                      I repeat, a complete fabrication. And my jaw is still on the floor.

                      Thank you @imacrea for bringing to our attention that shocking paragraph

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                      nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social
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                      #44

                      @_elena @imacrea Well, that makes sense why it’s a little tough to find then. Which LLM hallucinated that, when it was writing their story.

                      These people give journalists such a bad name. But by the time you dig into the misinformation, they have 10 more stories up.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce worth mentioning your Neil Postman connection too Ben for the extra cred 😉

                        The LinkedIn profile of that French journalist is really alarming because he's been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published several books on tech. He's a radio producer and host. It's shocking that he would share such blatant lies. Shocking I tell you!

                        He even has a Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Saltiel

                        @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

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                        #45

                        @_elena @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

                        Yup. NYU Media Ecology track Master of Arts grad here, Neil Postman was my thesis advisor

                        (now called the Media, Culture, and Communication dept, I'm old)

                        and François Saltiel needs to learn a little thing called integrity

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

                          oof

                          thanks for the info

                          we need nonprofit alternatives to journalism, badly

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                          #46

                          @benroyce @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @_elena i love print media, I've been on the board of several small ones and written for a bunch, but that only makes me more critical when they fuck up

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                            Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                            In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                            Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                            You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                            "Journalism" today

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #47

                            Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                            But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                            Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                            I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

                            defred@social.bim.landD nhoizey@mamot.frN phillycodehound@indieweb.socialP tk@social.apreslanu.itT 64bithero@mstdn.games6 6 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                              But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                              Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                              I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                              #48

                              @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon don't trust french public radio

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

                                nhoizey@mamot.frN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #49

                                @_elena there is already some discussion on LinkedIn: https://mastodon.social/@STPo/115978637442407795

                                @Gargron @Mastodon

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                  But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                  Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                  I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                                  #50

                                  @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon That's insane. You should!

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                    But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                    Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                    I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                                    #51

                                    @_elena @gargron @Mastodon there is a right call "droit de réponse" that forces media to publish (but not necessarily broadcast) additional facts or versions. also the convention is to ask for comment on quotes and facts and precise the person didn't answer at time of publication (and courtesy is to let a reasonable amount of time for the person to answer).

                                    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_r%C3%A9ponse

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                                    • tk@social.apreslanu.itT tk@social.apreslanu.it

                                      @_elena @gargron @Mastodon there is a right call "droit de réponse" that forces media to publish (but not necessarily broadcast) additional facts or versions. also the convention is to ask for comment on quotes and facts and precise the person didn't answer at time of publication (and courtesy is to let a reasonable amount of time for the person to answer).

                                      https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_r%C3%A9ponse

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                                      #52

                                      @_elena @gargron @Mastodon I checked with a journalist next to me and they have to broadcast the "droit de réponse" at the same scale as the initial message, like at the end of the next podcast. I don't know if it was aired.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                        But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                        Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                        I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                                        #53

                                        @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon no no no @Gargron and John Mastodon have been have a quarrel for years. Something about John kept eating all of the sandwiches in the fridge despite the fact @Gargron put him name on them.

                                        He just stopped putting his food on the Mastodon office fridge because of certain behaviors.

                                        That story always gets twisted in its re-telling

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                                          Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                                          In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                                          Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                                          You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                                          "Journalism" today

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                                          #54

                                          @_elena @Gargron

                                          This would have been the kind of story covered by "the Media Show" on BBCRadio4 when it wasn't just celebrity gossip and in-house promotion but the acknowledgement of the existence of the fediverse and activity protocols by the BBC is extremely low. They (presenters) mention TruthSocial, BlueSky and Threads a lot more than Mastodon or the tech that they are based on.

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