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Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

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  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

    @_elena how many politicians, organisations and journalists will join - because then the masses will join. If we want that is another question.

    So yes, it's just one of these "quick" broadcast contributions where an author doesn't interview people directly (or did he?) and graps the informations on the desk. And these were definitively the press release/publicity of Zeiter ...

    @Gargron

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    #30

    @NatureMC @_elena @Gargron Is the lack of big capital a bug or a feature? I’m pretty sure most current users view it as a feature.

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    • z_zed_zed@universeodon.comZ z_zed_zed@universeodon.com

      @NatureMC @_elena @Gargron Is the lack of big capital a bug or a feature? I’m pretty sure most current users view it as a feature.

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      #31

      @Z_Zed_Zed @NatureMC @Gargron one of my favorite features to be honest (top 3!)

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      • z_zed_zed@universeodon.comZ z_zed_zed@universeodon.com

        @NatureMC @_elena @Gargron Is the lack of big capital a bug or a feature? I’m pretty sure most current users view it as a feature.

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        #32

        @Z_Zed_Zed Therefore, I wrote: If we want that is another question."

        Personally, I like that the Fediverse is growing in a sustainable and quite organic way, especially since some admins of smaller servers are often on the brink of financial ruin, lacking donations. But we also have to support this - and watch how the really big accounts go elsewhere.

        @_elena @Gargron

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        • sloanlance@mastodon.socialS sloanlance@mastodon.social

          @_elena @Gargron
          My favorite French press…

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          #33

          @sloanlance

          Ah bon ? C'est french ?

          @_elena @Gargron

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          • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

            @aaronmccollum That's my impression too: it was a quick production because Zeiter's press release was on the table, so they quickly opened a blog page for a second structure, took a look, wrote something, and that was it.

            These three-minute pieces are done under enormous time pressure. And very few listeners remember them afterwards.

            @laxsill @_elena

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            #34

            @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

            my mother was a reporter and editor. she got me a part time job in high school at her newspaper

            i've watched her work since i was in diapers and so i understand through her time pressure in journalism

            but that is no defense for shoddy work

            nor do people just forget

            in fact the lies, intentional or unintentional, that appear in the press have debilitating effects on the common perception of truth

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

              Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

              In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

              Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

              You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

              "Journalism" today

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              #35

              @_elena @Gargron I foresee all those blind lemmings who left centralised platform X because one person started pulling the strings there with an undesirable fascist result, and then fled to a similar centralised platform, Bluesky, where ICE is suddenly allowed, now fleeing again to yet another centralised platform, W, only to find out in a few years' time that it's the same shit.

              Donkeys don't stumble over the same stone twice!

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                "Journalism" today

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                #36

                @_elena @Gargron

                Humans make mistakes.

                Here is a page where you can write him. They will probably mention the mistake and correct it in another podcast:

                https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/contact

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

                  my mother was a reporter and editor. she got me a part time job in high school at her newspaper

                  i've watched her work since i was in diapers and so i understand through her time pressure in journalism

                  but that is no defense for shoddy work

                  nor do people just forget

                  in fact the lies, intentional or unintentional, that appear in the press have debilitating effects on the common perception of truth

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                  #37

                  @benroyce
                  We *completely* agree!

                  France Culture was repeatedly in the headlines until 2023 due to despotic conditions towards employees/political influence (and also financial difficulties):
                  https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_Culture#Directions
                  With the new boss, a lot seems to have improved. But I have seen their reporters at local appointments who were unprepared and wanted to finish as quickly as possible. And therefore, reporting mistakes. 🙄

                  @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

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                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                    @benroyce
                    We *completely* agree!

                    France Culture was repeatedly in the headlines until 2023 due to despotic conditions towards employees/political influence (and also financial difficulties):
                    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_Culture#Directions
                    With the new boss, a lot seems to have improved. But I have seen their reporters at local appointments who were unprepared and wanted to finish as quickly as possible. And therefore, reporting mistakes. 🙄

                    @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

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                    #38

                    @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

                    oof

                    thanks for the info

                    we need nonprofit alternatives to journalism, badly

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                      Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                      In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                      Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                      You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                      "Journalism" today

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                      #39
                      I also hate the French press. It's impossible to clean. #☕️
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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                        Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                        In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                        Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                        You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                        "Journalism" today

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                        #40

                        @_elena @imacrea
                        C’est un problème quand on doit écrire l’article si vite qu’on n’a même pas le temps de faire des recherches correctes. Le “journalisme” moderne est inutile.

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                        • N nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social

                          @_elena @imacrea
                          C’est un problème quand on doit écrire l’article si vite qu’on n’a même pas le temps de faire des recherches correctes. Le “journalisme” moderne est inutile.

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                          #41

                          @_elena @imacrea

                          In November 2025, Eugen Rochko stepped down as Mastodon CEO, and he transferred the trademark and assets to Mastodon. He did NOT cancel his account or any instances. It’s still there. The “journalist” could have check.
                          https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/my-next-chapter-with-mastodon

                          In January 2026, he opted his Mastodon account out of the Bluesky bridge. This was supposedly because of the user behavior at Bsky. But I cannot find a direct statement about him leaving because of users.
                          https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115912977448929626

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

                            my mother was a reporter and editor. she got me a part time job in high school at her newspaper

                            i've watched her work since i was in diapers and so i understand through her time pressure in journalism

                            but that is no defense for shoddy work

                            nor do people just forget

                            in fact the lies, intentional or unintentional, that appear in the press have debilitating effects on the common perception of truth

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                            #42

                            @benroyce worth mentioning your Neil Postman connection too Ben for the extra cred 😉

                            The LinkedIn profile of that French journalist is really alarming because he's been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published several books on tech. He's a radio producer and host. It's shocking that he would share such blatant lies. Shocking I tell you!

                            He even has a Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Saltiel

                            @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

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                            • N nickbergencomputerquest@mastodon.social

                              @_elena @imacrea

                              In November 2025, Eugen Rochko stepped down as Mastodon CEO, and he transferred the trademark and assets to Mastodon. He did NOT cancel his account or any instances. It’s still there. The “journalist” could have check.
                              https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/my-next-chapter-with-mastodon

                              In January 2026, he opted his Mastodon account out of the Bluesky bridge. This was supposedly because of the user behavior at Bsky. But I cannot find a direct statement about him leaving because of users.
                              https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115912977448929626

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                              #43

                              @NickBergenComputerQuest you can't "find a direct statement about him leaving because of users" because it's a complete fabrication by that so-called journalist / radio host.

                              I repeat, a complete fabrication. And my jaw is still on the floor.

                              Thank you @imacrea for bringing to our attention that shocking paragraph

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @NickBergenComputerQuest you can't "find a direct statement about him leaving because of users" because it's a complete fabrication by that so-called journalist / radio host.

                                I repeat, a complete fabrication. And my jaw is still on the floor.

                                Thank you @imacrea for bringing to our attention that shocking paragraph

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                                #44

                                @_elena @imacrea Well, that makes sense why it’s a little tough to find then. Which LLM hallucinated that, when it was writing their story.

                                These people give journalists such a bad name. But by the time you dig into the misinformation, they have 10 more stories up.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce worth mentioning your Neil Postman connection too Ben for the extra cred 😉

                                  The LinkedIn profile of that French journalist is really alarming because he's been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published several books on tech. He's a radio producer and host. It's shocking that he would share such blatant lies. Shocking I tell you!

                                  He even has a Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Saltiel

                                  @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

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                                  #45

                                  @_elena @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

                                  Yup. NYU Media Ecology track Master of Arts grad here, Neil Postman was my thesis advisor

                                  (now called the Media, Culture, and Communication dept, I'm old)

                                  and François Saltiel needs to learn a little thing called integrity

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

                                    oof

                                    thanks for the info

                                    we need nonprofit alternatives to journalism, badly

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                                    #46

                                    @benroyce @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @_elena i love print media, I've been on the board of several small ones and written for a bunch, but that only makes me more critical when they fuck up

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                                      Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                                      In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                                      Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                                      You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                                      "Journalism" today

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                                      #47

                                      Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                      But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                      Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                      I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                        But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                        Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                        I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                                        #48

                                        @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon don't trust french public radio

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                                          But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                                          Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                                          I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                                          #49

                                          @_elena there is already some discussion on LinkedIn: https://mastodon.social/@STPo/115978637442407795

                                          @Gargron @Mastodon

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