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There are plausible allegations of #childRape against the President of the #USA and the firehose of bullshit and attention spans are such that it registers meekly

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  • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

    @benroyce

    An invasion of Greenland would change the news cycle. If this happens, that would be another masterful manipulation of the media.

    Nobody is questioning the system, which elected this person in 2016.

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    #67

    @davevolek

    i think it will be iran

    and as we spoke before on this topic: everyone agrees the system must change, the problem is *how*

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    • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

      @FransVeldman @benroyce @xs4me2 Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress under oath and not for anything he did with interns.

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      #68

      @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

      this is like saying "the south didn't secede because of slavery, they seceded because of states rights"

      ...the states "rights" to engage in slavery

      so bill clinton was impeached for lying to congress under oath *about sex with interns*

      i don't know what your intent is, but this sort of topic shifting is inaccurate

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      • hamishb@mstdn.caH hamishb@mstdn.ca

        The sheer volume of accusations should be enough. The DOJ says they are 'unsubstantiated allegations' without saying what efforts if any, they made to investigate them, then unequivocably assert they are untrue. Says who?

        The fact that the files are being released in a random firehose rather than in case file order suggests they're still trying to hise as much as possible.

        @benroyce

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        #69

        @hamishb

        there's also tons more material

        they aren't releasing the worst material

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        • fflyn@mastodon.socialF fflyn@mastodon.social

          @benroyce

          As an early member of Generation X, I grew up with values that are often completely at odds with those of today. How can it be that a wider part of society ignores child abuse? In the past, people would have kicked down the door if a politician or even a president had molested children, but today these filthy pigs are protected. What the hell is wrong with this world?

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          #70

          @fflyn @benroyce

          Same. I remember thinking that "Grab them by the pussy" would be the end of Trump.

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          • fflyn@mastodon.socialF fflyn@mastodon.social

            @benroyce

            As an early member of Generation X, I grew up with values that are often completely at odds with those of today. How can it be that a wider part of society ignores child abuse? In the past, people would have kicked down the door if a politician or even a president had molested children, but today these filthy pigs are protected. What the hell is wrong with this world?

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            #71

            @fflyn @benroyce It feels that way but it was never that way.

            We now know that there was rampant child abuse in everything from Hollywood to the Catholic Church at that time.

            No doors were kicked down. On the contrary, the leadership of all those institutions protected their own, even if they were pervs.

            The media was 100% owned and there was no way to tell the public.

            What has changed is the Internet. A lot more people know how rotten this culture is at the top.

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            • eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE eetschrijver@mastodon.social

              @benroyce Let's euphemistically put it this way: I am totally bewildered as to how such texts and Trump supporters can exist in the same timespace.

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              #72

              @Eetschrijver 👍 @benroyce

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              • spiritualannie@chattrbx.comS spiritualannie@chattrbx.com

                @benroyce

                As a sexual assault survivor, I appreciate the sentiment, but we've known he's a predator for a long time. E. Jean Carroll won in her suits against him. There are plenty of other credible accusations against him, one of which was a 13YO who withdrew her lawsuit out of fear of retaliation. He was elected anyway, then reelected.

                If he could be charged or sued, I'd love to see it. He probably can't be. And right now there are more important things going on, like saving our country.

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                #73

                @SpiritualAnnie @benroyce 100% true.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  There are plausible allegations of #childRape against the President of the #USA and the firehose of bullshit and attention spans are such that it registers meekly

                  Any other time in my life and for several lifespans before mine it would be the biggest fucking thing

                  Not to sound like a feeble old man yelling at clouds but it feels like the world is sick and broken in a way I don't understand

                  Is this #news going to fade by next week to a blip due to some new bullshit?

                  1/3

                  #EpsteinFiles #Trump

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                  #74

                  @benroyce
                  Remember the news cycle back when bubba got a blowie?

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

                    this is like saying "the south didn't secede because of slavery, they seceded because of states rights"

                    ...the states "rights" to engage in slavery

                    so bill clinton was impeached for lying to congress under oath *about sex with interns*

                    i don't know what your intent is, but this sort of topic shifting is inaccurate

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                    #75

                    @benroyce @FransVeldman @xs4me2 No, its literally what he was impeached for. It's nothing like the whataboutism you tried to slander me with.

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                    • M mike805@noc.social

                      @fflyn @benroyce It feels that way but it was never that way.

                      We now know that there was rampant child abuse in everything from Hollywood to the Catholic Church at that time.

                      No doors were kicked down. On the contrary, the leadership of all those institutions protected their own, even if they were pervs.

                      The media was 100% owned and there was no way to tell the public.

                      What has changed is the Internet. A lot more people know how rotten this culture is at the top.

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                      #76

                      @mike805

                      When a case of abuse became known in my region, the abusers had to flee; they were pursued and hunted down. That doesn't mean there weren't any cases.

                      @benroyce

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                      • xs4me2@mastodon.socialX xs4me2@mastodon.social

                        @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @benroyce

                        Well if it is up for lying, Trump made that into a habit and nobody seems to care anymore...

                        Lewinsky was 24, not 13...

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                        #77

                        @xs4me2 @FransVeldman @benroyce Ppl do care, it's that the people that do care don't hold the means to do anything about it today. We can change that though, and I think we will in time.

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                        • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce @FransVeldman @xs4me2 No, its literally what he was impeached for. It's nothing like the whataboutism you tried to slander me with.

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                          #78

                          @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

                          Right. It had nothing to do with anything else. You win. Uh huh.

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                          • fflyn@mastodon.socialF fflyn@mastodon.social

                            @mike805

                            When a case of abuse became known in my region, the abusers had to flee; they were pursued and hunted down. That doesn't mean there weren't any cases.

                            @benroyce

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                            #79

                            @fflyn @benroyce You must have been somewhere outside of the USA, UK, and Western Europe then. The rest of the world has not been so aggressively demoralized, so they still have healthy instincts that tell us what to do in such cases.

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                            • M mike805@noc.social

                              @fflyn @benroyce You must have been somewhere outside of the USA, UK, and Western Europe then. The rest of the world has not been so aggressively demoralized, so they still have healthy instincts that tell us what to do in such cases.

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                              #80

                              @mike805

                              EU/Germany

                              @benroyce

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                              • fflyn@mastodon.socialF fflyn@mastodon.social

                                @mike805

                                EU/Germany

                                @benroyce

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                                #81

                                @fflyn @benroyce That is a surprise. Germany still had some fight back in it at that time. They are pretty bad off now.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

                                  Right. It had nothing to do with anything else. You win. Uh huh.

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                                  #82

                                  @benroyce @FransVeldman @xs4me2 That's what Congress impeached him for. I'm sorry it doesn't fit your narrative, but if you look it actually does fit your narrative bc there are plenty of docs in the files from the 90s and no one dared pull that thread bc of how that thread connected everyone else in power. He was not impeached for anything with interns though. He was impeached for lying under oath to Congress. His public disgrace was bc of what he did with interns, but that is different.

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                                  • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce @FransVeldman @xs4me2 That's what Congress impeached him for. I'm sorry it doesn't fit your narrative, but if you look it actually does fit your narrative bc there are plenty of docs in the files from the 90s and no one dared pull that thread bc of how that thread connected everyone else in power. He was not impeached for anything with interns though. He was impeached for lying under oath to Congress. His public disgrace was bc of what he did with interns, but that is different.

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                                    #83

                                    @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

                                    I'm not interested in rehashing a fight from 30 years ago. I simply resent topic shift because it's dishonest. I'm not defending nor attacking Bill Clinton. I don't fucking care about Bill Clinton

                                    I have to register my distaste with this bullshit "the essential matter of a proceeding has nothing to do with the proceeding." I dislike this bending ourselves into pretzels over technicalities to pretend an event was about something else than it obviously was

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

                                      I'm not interested in rehashing a fight from 30 years ago. I simply resent topic shift because it's dishonest. I'm not defending nor attacking Bill Clinton. I don't fucking care about Bill Clinton

                                      I have to register my distaste with this bullshit "the essential matter of a proceeding has nothing to do with the proceeding." I dislike this bending ourselves into pretzels over technicalities to pretend an event was about something else than it obviously was

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                                      #84

                                      @benroyce @FransVeldman @xs4me2 That's important part of the discussion, that he wasn't impeached for anything with interns.

                                      You are the one that's going off course and rehashing a fight. You could have just been like yeah that's right and moved on.

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                                      • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @FransVeldman @xs4me2 That's important part of the discussion, that he wasn't impeached for anything with interns.

                                        You are the one that's going off course and rehashing a fight. You could have just been like yeah that's right and moved on.

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                                        #85

                                        @Scrimshaw9 @FransVeldman @xs4me2

                                        Thank you for just completely ignoring everything I said and acting like this pathetic exchange you freely choose to join is all on me

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                                        • fflyn@mastodon.socialF fflyn@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce

                                          As an early member of Generation X, I grew up with values that are often completely at odds with those of today. How can it be that a wider part of society ignores child abuse? In the past, people would have kicked down the door if a politician or even a president had molested children, but today these filthy pigs are protected. What the hell is wrong with this world?

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                                          #86

                                          @fflyn @benroyce Pedos are protected because the alternative was to vote for a black woman. A step far beyond what can be contemplated in the USA.

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