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So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age.

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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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    #41

    @JessTheUnstill they have been running that AI for years now.

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    • aurelia@social.treehouse.systemsA aurelia@social.treehouse.systems

      @JessTheUnstill long running joke that you should never even joke about "being" a number below 18, in any context, because it will trigger discord age verification

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      #42

      @aurelia @JessTheUnstill that is not a joke, that has been happening. You can even get somebody to write a number below 13, edit your own message to be "how old are you?" And then report their message and their account will get locked.

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      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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        #43

        @JessTheUnstill I'm 12 and what is this?

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        • trecartin@ottawa.placeT trecartin@ottawa.place

          @JessTheUnstill Ugh. It's likely because Discord is going IPO in March.

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          #44

          @trecartin @JessTheUnstill Time to make Discord as "ad-friendly" as possible I guess...

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          • momgoth@wandering.shopM momgoth@wandering.shop

            @JessTheUnstill Well, shit. There are a few Discord groups that I'm on. I'm pretty sure that Discord has a ton of info on me already, but I don't think I'll be back.

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            #45

            @Momgoth @JessTheUnstill Depending on where you live you might be able to request all that data to be deleted. (also yes! This is the right way to think about it. Too many people think that because a company already has a bunch of data trying to minimize your data footprint does not matter.)

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            • valsombra@chaosfem.twV valsombra@chaosfem.tw

              @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

              I think the main thing keeping people on platforms like Discord & Facebook are the group management features.

              Private Facebook groups offer the 'walled garden' vibe for special interests, while Discord makes it much easier to organize a community.

              There's a feature gap that I haven't seen any other products step in to fill (especially for non-technical users).

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              #46

              @valsombra @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu And discord managed to convince these communities to talk in a space that has near-zero searchability so there will be a lot of ressources that just get lost in the aether...

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              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                #47

                @JessTheUnstill Finish your sentences with a period to watch porn.

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                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                  So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                  Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                  #48

                  @JessTheUnstill https://element.io/en/about might be the solution? Unless theres a catch I am not seeing that actually looks very approachble, usable and secure?

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                    #49
                    @JessTheUnstill i wonder which would be more effective, typing in Proper Grammer With Periods. 🙂 or typing millennial spork >_< shit
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                    • apophis@kill-corporations.enterprisesA apophis@kill-corporations.enterprises
                      @JessTheUnstill i wonder which would be more effective, typing in Proper Grammer With Periods. 🙂 or typing millennial spork >_< shit
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                      #50
                      @JessTheUnstill "what's the percentage on ______" "ummmmmmm just two points under 69"
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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                        #51

                        @JessTheUnstill

                        I stopped using Discord a year or two ago not because of any specific issue,* but because too many apps and online communities are clamoring for my attention. Given this development, I will continue to avoid it.

                        * Unlike the author of the quoted article, whose opening paragraph is giving serious "So tell us how you *really* feel" energy 😉 (ETA screenshot)

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                        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                          So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                          Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                          #52

                          @JessTheUnstill discord? No idea what it is.

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                          • accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA accordingtowouter@mastodon.world

                            @JessTheUnstill discord? No idea what it is.

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                            #53

                            @AccordingtoWouter k

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                            • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                              @AccordingtoWouter k

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                              #54

                              @JessTheUnstill but I think if you need to prove your ID, it doesn’t exist that long anymore 😀

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                              • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

                                @erin Or just make a reference to leaving a message on an answering machine.

                                @JessTheUnstill

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                                #55

                                @faithisleaping @erin @JessTheUnstill Me: "Great video! I had to rewind-"
                                My Discord NSA agent: "He's clear, sir."

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                                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                  So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                  Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                  #56

                                  @JessTheUnstill Use Stoat.chat instead. formerly known as @revoltchat

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                    #57

                                    @JessTheUnstill

                                    i wonder if AI excepts this as ID to "infer my age" 🤭

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                                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                      So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                      Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                      https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                      #58

                                      @JessTheUnstill I write like I'm going to be graded. I should be okay.

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                                      • ainar_von_fieln@mastodon.socialA ainar_von_fieln@mastodon.social

                                        @JessTheUnstill Use Stoat.chat instead. formerly known as @revoltchat

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                                        #59

                                        @Ainar_von_Fieln @JessTheUnstill @revoltchat As far as I can tell it doesn't support video chat, so it doesn't meet my use case.

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                                        • valsombra@chaosfem.twV valsombra@chaosfem.tw

                                          @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

                                          I think the main thing keeping people on platforms like Discord & Facebook are the group management features.

                                          Private Facebook groups offer the 'walled garden' vibe for special interests, while Discord makes it much easier to organize a community.

                                          There's a feature gap that I haven't seen any other products step in to fill (especially for non-technical users).

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                                          #60

                                          @valsombra @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu This has been done before though. Reddit replacing digg. Facebook replacing myspace. It takes a lot of effort to move users, and in a few years the new thing is somehow worse than the previous thing. I'm never going to be excited about another "product" ever.

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