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So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age.

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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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    #33

    @JessTheUnstill that's it I'm fucking done. Iml'm getting back into coding. Fuck all this proprietary Nazi tech I'm building better as an act of antifascist resistance

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    • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

      @itsVague @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu There is always an alternative, including signing off the Internet entirely. For my use, Mastodon is fine.

      All the stuff that is complying with age verification is supported by ads, which in my case means I am already boycotting it. This will just mean a few more sites that like Facebook cannot even be read without an account. A few more sites I treat as 404 and move on from as I do paywalled or adwalled crap.

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      #34

      @LukefromDC @itsVague @FknHannu
      That's ... Really not an alternative when we have to do everything we can to INCREASE our connections to others, and the way people connect is via the internet. You're basically suggesting the digital equivalent of "well I don't like capitalism so I'll just move to my hut in the woods", which fine. Good luck with that. But most of us need jobs in order to eat.

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      • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

        @Nikkileah @JessTheUnstill Until they hit a 15 year old Cold War historian.

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        #35

        @JessTheUnstill @LukefromDC 😁😅

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        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

          @LukefromDC @itsVague @FknHannu
          That's ... Really not an alternative when we have to do everything we can to INCREASE our connections to others, and the way people connect is via the internet. You're basically suggesting the digital equivalent of "well I don't like capitalism so I'll just move to my hut in the woods", which fine. Good luck with that. But most of us need jobs in order to eat.

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          #36

          @JessTheUnstill @itsVague @FknHannu I think we speak from different positions in life.

          I prioritize complete disconnection from things that agitate me as I am autistic. Ads are a biggie here and age verification also sets me off.

          Let's make another "hut in the woods" analogy. I am sensitive to scent products and am sometimes driven out of a space by them.

          Some folks who are sensitive to almost all the airbourne chemistry of modern/industrialized life do in fact move to a hut in the woods or more often a community of rural cabins to escape it.

          So my position on age verification is thus similar to someone already living in a rural cabin over petro fumes hearing that a major perfume trend and marketing offensive is underway in the nearest town. They just have one additional reason to avoid it, nothing changes for them.

          You can have a job without being on Discord or Facebook of course, and rural areas DO have jobs, just not a lot of desk jobs.

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          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

            So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

            Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

            https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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            #37

            @JessTheUnstill What’s „Discord“? 😇

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            • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

              @erin Or just make a reference to leaving a message on an answering machine.

              @JessTheUnstill

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              #38

              @faithisleaping @erin @JessTheUnstill

              😂 = officially an adult
              💀 = probably a teenager

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              • sitcom_nemesis@tech.lgbtS sitcom_nemesis@tech.lgbt

                @faithisleaping @erin @JessTheUnstill

                😂 = officially an adult
                💀 = probably a teenager

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                #39

                @faithisleaping @erin @JessTheUnstill don't forget to talk about taxes too

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                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                  So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                  Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                  #40

                  @JessTheUnstill oh okay. Two spaces after period, then.

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                    #41

                    @JessTheUnstill they have been running that AI for years now.

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                    • aurelia@social.treehouse.systemsA aurelia@social.treehouse.systems

                      @JessTheUnstill long running joke that you should never even joke about "being" a number below 18, in any context, because it will trigger discord age verification

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                      #42

                      @aurelia @JessTheUnstill that is not a joke, that has been happening. You can even get somebody to write a number below 13, edit your own message to be "how old are you?" And then report their message and their account will get locked.

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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                        #43

                        @JessTheUnstill I'm 12 and what is this?

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                        • trecartin@ottawa.placeT trecartin@ottawa.place

                          @JessTheUnstill Ugh. It's likely because Discord is going IPO in March.

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                          #44

                          @trecartin @JessTheUnstill Time to make Discord as "ad-friendly" as possible I guess...

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                          • momgoth@wandering.shopM momgoth@wandering.shop

                            @JessTheUnstill Well, shit. There are a few Discord groups that I'm on. I'm pretty sure that Discord has a ton of info on me already, but I don't think I'll be back.

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                            #45

                            @Momgoth @JessTheUnstill Depending on where you live you might be able to request all that data to be deleted. (also yes! This is the right way to think about it. Too many people think that because a company already has a bunch of data trying to minimize your data footprint does not matter.)

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                            • valsombra@chaosfem.twV valsombra@chaosfem.tw

                              @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

                              I think the main thing keeping people on platforms like Discord & Facebook are the group management features.

                              Private Facebook groups offer the 'walled garden' vibe for special interests, while Discord makes it much easier to organize a community.

                              There's a feature gap that I haven't seen any other products step in to fill (especially for non-technical users).

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                              #46

                              @valsombra @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu And discord managed to convince these communities to talk in a space that has near-zero searchability so there will be a lot of ressources that just get lost in the aether...

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                              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                #47

                                @JessTheUnstill Finish your sentences with a period to watch porn.

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                                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                  So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                  Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                  #48

                                  @JessTheUnstill https://element.io/en/about might be the solution? Unless theres a catch I am not seeing that actually looks very approachble, usable and secure?

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                    @JessTheUnstill i wonder which would be more effective, typing in Proper Grammer With Periods. 🙂 or typing millennial spork >_< shit
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                                    • apophis@kill-corporations.enterprisesA apophis@kill-corporations.enterprises
                                      @JessTheUnstill i wonder which would be more effective, typing in Proper Grammer With Periods. 🙂 or typing millennial spork >_< shit
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                                      #50
                                      @JessTheUnstill "what's the percentage on ______" "ummmmmmm just two points under 69"
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                                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                        #51

                                        @JessTheUnstill

                                        I stopped using Discord a year or two ago not because of any specific issue,* but because too many apps and online communities are clamoring for my attention. Given this development, I will continue to avoid it.

                                        * Unlike the author of the quoted article, whose opening paragraph is giving serious "So tell us how you *really* feel" energy 😉 (ETA screenshot)

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                                        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                          So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                          Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                          #52

                                          @JessTheUnstill discord? No idea what it is.

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