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We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

    If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

    (sorry it’s in Google docs)

    https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

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    aphandersen@ansico.dkA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #122

    @jippi er expressional.social også med her?

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    • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

      Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

      - Run default Mastodon (for now)
      - Agree to the Server Covenant
      - Have existed for 1+ year
      - Have shut-down & disaster plans

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      saustrup@mstdn.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #123

      @Mastodon So no Glitch instances at this point?

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      • aphandersen@ansico.dkA aphandersen@ansico.dk

        @jippi er expressional.social også med her?

        jippi@expressional.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #124

        @aphandersen nej, men måske okay spændende 🤔

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        • jippi@expressional.socialJ jippi@expressional.social

          @aphandersen nej, men måske okay spændende 🤔

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          #125

          @aphandersen "desværre" kører vi en fork, så nok ikke legible til det

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          • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

            If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

            (sorry it’s in Google docs)

            https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

            5/6

            flaky@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #126

            @Mastodon please do not apologise for using a good free tool while it's free lol

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            • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

              @admin @Mastodon hey! The only thing to do for now is make sure you’re meeting these eligibility requirements:

              - Run default Mastodon (for now)
              - Agree to the Server Covenant
              - Have existed for 1+ year
              - Have shut-down & disaster plans

              Besides that, stay tuned!

              beachbum1972@echoingdusk.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #127

              @haubles @admin @Mastodon

              This is awesome! I would be happy to host more folks on my server. I just need some guidance on how to reduce the cost a bit. I am not sure how to get images, videos, etc, to less expensive storage on Digital Ocean. Anyone out there that could point me in the right direction?

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              • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                @andrewblasco @Mastodon

                It's a double edged sword. Yes, mastodon.social is large and unweildy, but as the default it kept me from ignorantly joining a toxic instance like beigeparty. I'm for change, but it's yet to be seen how this plays out in practice.

                A better solution might be something like an official introductory instance where you get 6 months to get your footing and then it prompts you to migrate and gives you a selection of vetted servers. Like pushing a baby bird out of the nest.

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                #128

                @contrasocial @andrewblasco @Mastodon

                Twitter Refugee Camp

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                • beachbum1972@echoingdusk.socialB beachbum1972@echoingdusk.social

                  @haubles @admin @Mastodon

                  This is awesome! I would be happy to host more folks on my server. I just need some guidance on how to reduce the cost a bit. I am not sure how to get images, videos, etc, to less expensive storage on Digital Ocean. Anyone out there that could point me in the right direction?

                  admin@mastodon-belgium.beA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #129

                  @beachbum1972
                  You could try with a tool like s3fs to mount an S3 bucket locally, then copy or move files over before pointing Mastodon directly to the S3 bucket.

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                  • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                    Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                    - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                    - Agree to the Server Covenant
                    - Have existed for 1+ year
                    - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                    4/6

                    raineer@frontrange.coR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #130

                    @Mastodon open sign-ups is a rough requirement

                    Is there a way you can architect “open signups if they go through the geographical tool”? Which is probably still a bad idea…

                    You can’t ask us to open signups until it gets a lot easier to nuke spambots

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                    • henry@badly.coH henry@badly.co

                      @Mastodon can we have something like a quota? Not to overflow a small instance?

                      haubles@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #131

                      @Henry @Mastodon I expect we will! The exact parameters for the experiment are still being set, so please keep these ideas coming 🙂

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                      • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                        @Mastodon I presume by "default Mastodon", you mean that if a server has so much as changed the max characters per post from the default 500, they won't be eligible?

                        Otherwise, I think this is a fantastic idea!

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                        #132

                        @GrahamDowns @Mastodon good question! We’ll get back to you on that

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                        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                          We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                          Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

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                          peperlito@boitam.euP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #133

                          @Mastodon really good idea, more diversity!

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                          • admin@mastodon-belgium.beA admin@mastodon-belgium.be

                            @beachbum1972
                            You could try with a tool like s3fs to mount an S3 bucket locally, then copy or move files over before pointing Mastodon directly to the S3 bucket.

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                            #134

                            @admin @beachbum1972
                            I have absolutely no direct experience with this, but Backblaze offers an S3-compatible API, supposedly at 1/3 the cost of Amazon. Hosted in USA.

                            https://www.backblaze.com/docs/cloud-storage-s3-compatible-api

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                            • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                              @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                              For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

                              davey_cakes@mastodon.ieD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #135

                              @haubles @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                              Thanks for clarifying.

                              As it stands any participating server would be paying a price for inclusion.

                              I'm not even sure how many reputable general purpose servers still have open sign-up after recent spam waves.

                              As a volunteer, eyeballing potential member applications while not attending to one's own business is the only way to do it.

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                              • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                1/6

                                res260@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #136

                                @meadmin Qlub comme serveur recommandé? 👀

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                                • davey_cakes@mastodon.ieD davey_cakes@mastodon.ie

                                  @haubles @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                                  Thanks for clarifying.

                                  As it stands any participating server would be paying a price for inclusion.

                                  I'm not even sure how many reputable general purpose servers still have open sign-up after recent spam waves.

                                  As a volunteer, eyeballing potential member applications while not attending to one's own business is the only way to do it.

                                  mike@social.chinwag.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #137

                                  @davey_cakes @haubles @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon yeah requiring open sign ups is a total deal breaker. There's no way we will stop screening for bots, it saves so much work.

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                                  • res260@infosec.exchangeR res260@infosec.exchange

                                    @meadmin Qlub comme serveur recommandé? 👀

                                    meadmin@qlub.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #138

                                    @res260 Merci d'avoir pensé à #Qlub ! C'est une bonne idée, mais on ne correspond pas à tous les critères pour l'instant 😬

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                                    • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                      We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                      Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                      1/6

                                      sammypanda@aus.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #139

                                      @Mastodon yas 👏

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                                      • beachbum1972@echoingdusk.socialB beachbum1972@echoingdusk.social

                                        @haubles @admin @Mastodon

                                        This is awesome! I would be happy to host more folks on my server. I just need some guidance on how to reduce the cost a bit. I am not sure how to get images, videos, etc, to less expensive storage on Digital Ocean. Anyone out there that could point me in the right direction?

                                        e_nomem@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #140

                                        @beachbum1972 If you're starting with media on your local system, you can configure your proxy server (nginx or equivalent) to try serving media from DO first and then falling back to the local filesystem. Then configure mastodon to use S3 (all new media will now be in DO). At this point you have all the time you need to migrate the files over from the local filesystem to DO. This is effectively what Hachyderm did when migrating media from local filesystem to a storage bucket.

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                                        • e_nomem@hachyderm.ioE e_nomem@hachyderm.io

                                          @beachbum1972 If you're starting with media on your local system, you can configure your proxy server (nginx or equivalent) to try serving media from DO first and then falling back to the local filesystem. Then configure mastodon to use S3 (all new media will now be in DO). At this point you have all the time you need to migrate the files over from the local filesystem to DO. This is effectively what Hachyderm did when migrating media from local filesystem to a storage bucket.

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                                          #141

                                          @beachbum1972 Found the blog post about it. There's not a lot of detail there but the tl;dr is to use the nginx try_files directive to check the storage bucket first before the local filesystem.
                                          https://community.hachyderm.io/blog/2022/12/03/leaving-the-basement/#solution-nginx-try_files

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