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We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

    We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

    Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

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    jeremy@nwt.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #117

    @Mastodon this would be great for some of the smaller indigenous communities here that might be experimenting with creating their own servers. The people I’ve spoken to up here about the fediverse were most excited by the idea of easy ways for minority language groups to create their own social spaces online.

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    • renwillis@mstdn.socialR renwillis@mstdn.social

      @sunnythesheep There’s plenty of criticisms, many valid, about Mastodon. I love it, but it’s no panacea. People went to Bluesky because a) it was easy and b) because of *that* the “cool kids” went there and folks followed.

      Add in a quick feed to get people engaging? Check done.

      Mastodon & the fediverse at large can be the long term solution, but we still got a ways to go!

      sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #118

      @renwillis but I explicitly wasn't taking about the valid criticism, but about simply made up ones, which I still encounter so often. And which I really got tired to even reply to.

      And about Bluesky: the moment it started, it wasn't "easy" at all. It was way behind Mastodon at the very beginning and you even had to beg and wait for an invitation code to get started 😅 At this very moment, it DOES have better usability, than Mastodon (at least for who loves algorithms), but you'd be surprised to

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      • sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS sunnythesheep@mastodon.social

        @renwillis but I explicitly wasn't taking about the valid criticism, but about simply made up ones, which I still encounter so often. And which I really got tired to even reply to.

        And about Bluesky: the moment it started, it wasn't "easy" at all. It was way behind Mastodon at the very beginning and you even had to beg and wait for an invitation code to get started 😅 At this very moment, it DOES have better usability, than Mastodon (at least for who loves algorithms), but you'd be surprised to

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        #119

        @renwillis ... see Mastodon's current, new sign up process (so was I).

        Still, federation (despite its HUGE advantages for digital sovereignty!) will always have downsides, too. It's a choice you actively have to make.

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        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

          We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

          Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

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          hashraydamon@me.dmH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #120

          @Mastodon just make sure to check the servers *before* recommending, just because the language is the correct doesn't mean the server is properly run

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          • sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS sunnythesheep@mastodon.social

            @renwillis ... see Mastodon's current, new sign up process (so was I).

            Still, federation (despite its HUGE advantages for digital sovereignty!) will always have downsides, too. It's a choice you actively have to make.

            sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #121

            @renwillis and: you definitely CAN use "Trending" as your timeline! It's algorithmic, but it's personalized, too! It depends on who you follow, on your personal language settings, on the number of likes and boosts (I suspect also on the number of replys and on the hashtags you follow).

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            • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

              If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

              (sorry it’s in Google docs)

              https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

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              aphandersen@ansico.dkA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #122

              @jippi er expressional.social også med her?

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              • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                - Agree to the Server Covenant
                - Have existed for 1+ year
                - Have shut-down & disaster plans

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                saustrup@mstdn.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #123

                @Mastodon So no Glitch instances at this point?

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                • aphandersen@ansico.dkA aphandersen@ansico.dk

                  @jippi er expressional.social også med her?

                  jippi@expressional.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #124

                  @aphandersen nej, men måske okay spændende 🤔

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                  • jippi@expressional.socialJ jippi@expressional.social

                    @aphandersen nej, men måske okay spændende 🤔

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                    #125

                    @aphandersen "desværre" kører vi en fork, så nok ikke legible til det

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                    • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                      If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

                      (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                      https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

                      5/6

                      flaky@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #126

                      @Mastodon please do not apologise for using a good free tool while it's free lol

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                      • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                        @admin @Mastodon hey! The only thing to do for now is make sure you’re meeting these eligibility requirements:

                        - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                        - Agree to the Server Covenant
                        - Have existed for 1+ year
                        - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                        Besides that, stay tuned!

                        beachbum1972@echoingdusk.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #127

                        @haubles @admin @Mastodon

                        This is awesome! I would be happy to host more folks on my server. I just need some guidance on how to reduce the cost a bit. I am not sure how to get images, videos, etc, to less expensive storage on Digital Ocean. Anyone out there that could point me in the right direction?

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                        • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                          @andrewblasco @Mastodon

                          It's a double edged sword. Yes, mastodon.social is large and unweildy, but as the default it kept me from ignorantly joining a toxic instance like beigeparty. I'm for change, but it's yet to be seen how this plays out in practice.

                          A better solution might be something like an official introductory instance where you get 6 months to get your footing and then it prompts you to migrate and gives you a selection of vetted servers. Like pushing a baby bird out of the nest.

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                          #128

                          @contrasocial @andrewblasco @Mastodon

                          Twitter Refugee Camp

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                          • beachbum1972@echoingdusk.socialB beachbum1972@echoingdusk.social

                            @haubles @admin @Mastodon

                            This is awesome! I would be happy to host more folks on my server. I just need some guidance on how to reduce the cost a bit. I am not sure how to get images, videos, etc, to less expensive storage on Digital Ocean. Anyone out there that could point me in the right direction?

                            admin@mastodon-belgium.beA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #129

                            @beachbum1972
                            You could try with a tool like s3fs to mount an S3 bucket locally, then copy or move files over before pointing Mastodon directly to the S3 bucket.

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                            • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                              Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                              - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                              - Agree to the Server Covenant
                              - Have existed for 1+ year
                              - Have shut-down & disaster plans

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                              raineer@frontrange.coR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #130

                              @Mastodon open sign-ups is a rough requirement

                              Is there a way you can architect “open signups if they go through the geographical tool”? Which is probably still a bad idea…

                              You can’t ask us to open signups until it gets a lot easier to nuke spambots

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                              • henry@badly.coH henry@badly.co

                                @Mastodon can we have something like a quota? Not to overflow a small instance?

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                                #131

                                @Henry @Mastodon I expect we will! The exact parameters for the experiment are still being set, so please keep these ideas coming 🙂

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                                • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                                  @Mastodon I presume by "default Mastodon", you mean that if a server has so much as changed the max characters per post from the default 500, they won't be eligible?

                                  Otherwise, I think this is a fantastic idea!

                                  haubles@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #132

                                  @GrahamDowns @Mastodon good question! We’ll get back to you on that

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                                  • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                    We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                    Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                    1/6

                                    peperlito@boitam.euP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #133

                                    @Mastodon really good idea, more diversity!

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                                    • admin@mastodon-belgium.beA admin@mastodon-belgium.be

                                      @beachbum1972
                                      You could try with a tool like s3fs to mount an S3 bucket locally, then copy or move files over before pointing Mastodon directly to the S3 bucket.

                                      realgene@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #134

                                      @admin @beachbum1972
                                      I have absolutely no direct experience with this, but Backblaze offers an S3-compatible API, supposedly at 1/3 the cost of Amazon. Hosted in USA.

                                      https://www.backblaze.com/docs/cloud-storage-s3-compatible-api

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                                      • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                                        @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                                        For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

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                                        #135

                                        @haubles @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                                        Thanks for clarifying.

                                        As it stands any participating server would be paying a price for inclusion.

                                        I'm not even sure how many reputable general purpose servers still have open sign-up after recent spam waves.

                                        As a volunteer, eyeballing potential member applications while not attending to one's own business is the only way to do it.

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                                        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                          We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                          Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

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                                          #136

                                          @meadmin Qlub comme serveur recommandé? 👀

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