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We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • colinstu@birdbutt.comC colinstu@birdbutt.com

    @Mastodon besides geographical location, are there going to be any filters for like, interests or core topics etc?

    A gardening and plant instance is going to have a different vibe from the software/hardware developer instance, etc.

    It would be a neat to be a part of this, but only if relevant users/signups are being directed.

    Edit: "General Purpose Servers" ah.. missed that keyword (figured that would've been mentioned again earlier?). /ht: https://tyrol.social/@nitrml/115989922418887309

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    #28

    @colinstu it says "general purpose servers". So no special interests servers or topical servers are gonna be able to participate in this feature (at the moment).

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    • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

      @NatureMC

      Hey! We haven't built the logic for this yet, so thanks for mentioning situations like this so we can make sure to take them into account. Our idea is "correct language" = "the person's preferred language, as determined by their phone's preferences."

      @Mastodon

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      #29

      @haubles That sounds very good, I didn't know that it's technically possible. Great!

      @Mastodon

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      • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

        If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

        (sorry it’s in Google docs)

        https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

        5/6

        stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #30

        @Mastodon send!

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        • martijn@ieji.deM martijn@ieji.de

          @Mastodon @SolSoCoG ?

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          #31

          @martijn @Mastodon already filled out when a fellow admin wrote about it 👌

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          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

            @Mastodon send!

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            #32

            @stux @Mastodon send data?!

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            • nitrml@tyrol.socialN nitrml@tyrol.social

              @colinstu it says "general purpose servers". So no special interests servers or topical servers are gonna be able to participate in this feature (at the moment).

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              #33

              @nitrml @colinstu

              This experiment will be for general purpose servers only, but we'll be looking into running other onboarding experiments—including for special interest servers—soon.

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              • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

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                rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #34

                @Mastodon

                you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

                the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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                • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                  We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                  Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                  1/6

                  sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #35

                  @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

                    https://joinmastodon.org/covenant

                    One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

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                    #36

                    @aral

                    I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

                    Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

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                    • octaviaconamore@cutie.cityO octaviaconamore@cutie.city

                      @Mastodon do you mean entirely open sign-ups (i.e. prone to spam accounts) or accepting sign-ups that get manually approved by a human?

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                      #37

                      @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                      For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

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                      • potatoes_fall@miscreants.partyP potatoes_fall@miscreants.party

                        @aral

                        I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

                        Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

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                        #38

                        @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                        • sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS sunnythesheep@mastodon.social

                          @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

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                          #39

                          @sunnythesheep @Mastodon for this experiment we are looking to partner with general-purpose servers. But this is just one experiment, not the only experiment! We’ll be looking at how we can help with special-interest server discovery soon.

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                          • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                            The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

                            Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

                            We can’t wait to get started 💜

                            6/6

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                            #40

                            @Mastodon It's amazing seeing these sorts of things play out across the Fediverse. Making sure we make a better internet that is centered around Privacy and staying decentralized for all.

                            Keep up the good work and can't wait to see where we all are in several years to come.

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                            • rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR rzeta0@mathstodon.xyz

                              @Mastodon

                              you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

                              the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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                              #41

                              @rzeta0 @Mastodon What do you mean? The idea would be to give people a server that is in the area they are living. If you live in Germany you have apply to it's legal jurisdiction.

                              But I don't really see how German law is particular more / less problematic when choosing a mastodon server.

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                              • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                1/6

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                                #42

                                @Mastodon

                                "We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start."

                                And here is the core symptom of the core problem itself:

                                You're pointing the question and its solution right back at the Deathstar Mothership itself: @Mastodon dot Social

                                Sort of a recursive, self-fulfilling loop, no?

                                But not the least bit surprising

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                                • admin@mastodon-belgium.beA admin@mastodon-belgium.be

                                  @Mastodon
                                  Interesting experiment!
                                  Before I fill in the form:
                                  Is there anything in particular that should be done or followed-up server/admin side for this?

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                                  #43

                                  @admin @Mastodon hey! The only thing to do for now is make sure you’re meeting these eligibility requirements:

                                  - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                                  - Agree to the Server Covenant
                                  - Have existed for 1+ year
                                  - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                                  Besides that, stay tuned!

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                                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                    @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                                    #44

                                    @aral @potatoes_fall

                                    Yes 100%, this issue has been troublesome in reality, not just theoretically

                                    I wonder if users should be prompted so they are placed in a suitable jurisdiction?

                                    And majority of users would be unaware of this issue, so a positive outcome is them becoming aware.

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                                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                      @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                                      #45

                                      @potatoes_fall Also see this follow-up: https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/115989944734933868

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                                      • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                        Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                                        - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                                        - Agree to the Server Covenant
                                        - Have existed for 1+ year
                                        - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                                        4/6

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                                        #46

                                        @mainz_sozial_digital @system @allmaechd @nrw.social @bawue.social @berlin.social @norden.social @sueden.social @bonndigital

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                                        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                          If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

                                          (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                                          https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

                                          5/6

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                                          #47

                                          @Mastodon we could deal with the form being on Google, but it requires a Google account to fill it, which our instance admin doesn't have. I'm pretty sure this is configurable

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