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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

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  • jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.orgJ jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.org

    @ronnylam because when they started their repo, sovereignty was only barely finally making it to the heads of some people, and I'm not even sure codeberg was around, or at least as visible as it is today. Now the movement is picking up pace, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to move their code elsewhere in the (more-or-less near) future.

    @jim

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    #27

    @jenesuispasgoth @jim I will sure encourage them.

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    • oantolin@mathstodon.xyzO oantolin@mathstodon.xyz

      @jim @antoinechambertloir Why did they name it after Microsoft's diagramming and flowchart application? I like the power move of just using the name of a piece of Microsoft software unchanged but why not use "Teams" which it can replace instead of "Visio" which it does not replace?

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      #28

      @oantolin because in French we use the name visio (short for visioconférence), and less vidéoconférence.

      @jim @antoinechambertloir

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      • jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.orgJ jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.org

        @oantolin because in French we use the name visio (short for visioconférence), and less vidéoconférence.

        @jim @antoinechambertloir

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        #29

        @jenesuispasgoth @jim @antoinechambertloir Oh, that makes sense. I'll still tell every one that they picked the exact name of a well-known Microsoft product in a punk rock act of defiance, though.

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        • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

          Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

          But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

          https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

          https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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          #30

          @jim

          visio is not for public use.

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          • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

            Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

            But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

            https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

            https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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            #31

            @jim is this much different from jitsi?

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            • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

              Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

              But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

              https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

              https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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              #32

              @jim On their Websites, the government says clearly that it is open source: "Suite #Visio. Simple. Open-source."
              Visio website: https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/produits/visio
              They have also new products to stop with Google & Co: mail, docs, transfer, chat: https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ and their Mastodon Channel @lasuite

              #DINUM responsable for the #transition has an own server here: https://social.numerique.gouv.fr/about Collaborators like the @cnrs are here with several accounts.

              #digitalsovereignty #France #CNRS #EU

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              • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                #33

                @jim one of the groups behind it is doing a talk at #fosdem this week https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/THRG3E-la_suite_coop_model_for_digital_commons/

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                • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #34

                  @gfkdsgn These systems are intranet systems for the state and administration, and also for military. Therefore, they developped a completely independent system. https://www.numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/

                  @jim @nextcloud

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                  • P phosphenes@mastodon.social

                    @cstanhope @eparto @jim

                    Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?

                    if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.

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                    #35

                    @Phosphenes They developped French AI, placed in France, using them for subtitles and transscripts of conferences. If you know the amount of papers in French administration, this can be a help. https://www.numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/

                    @cstanhope @eparto @jim

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                    • unruhe@mastodon.socialU unruhe@mastodon.social

                      @jim strange concept of Open Source in France. Why don't they use existing Free Software projects and give some money and help to them to increase the distance from the US? And after them all other EU countries. Moving seriously to Linux using Linux and FreeBSD servers and so on...

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                      #36

                      @unruhe @jim I think the better question is how they contribute back to the open source projects they’re using. That repo shows a bunch of projects, and they have the resources to contribute back.

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                      • j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.socialJ j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.social

                        @jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...

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                        #37

                        @j0ebaldw1n Visio is a normal word in French, the abbreviation of visioconférence. Normal words can't be trademarked so easily - and they use it only for France.
                        You can be sure that the state can afford the best solicitors. 😉

                        @jim

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                        • ananas@scicomm.xyzA ananas@scicomm.xyz

                          @humanhorseshoes @jim
                          It's MIT licenced, so if you know what you're doing, yeah.

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                          #38

                          @ananas @humanhorseshoes @jim The linked article says no, so that's a little confusing.

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                          • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

                            @unruhe @jim I think the better question is how they contribute back to the open source projects they’re using. That repo shows a bunch of projects, and they have the resources to contribute back.

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                            #39

                            @acdha @jim good question!

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                            • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                              Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                              But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                              https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                              https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                              #40

                              RE: https://social.openrightsgroup.org/@jim/115966835615949718

                              @jim
                              @onepict
                              does your project leaverage this code?

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                              • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                @j0ebaldw1n Visio is a normal word in French, the abbreviation of visioconférence. Normal words can't be trademarked so easily - and they use it only for France.
                                You can be sure that the state can afford the best solicitors. 😉

                                @jim

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                                #41

                                @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

                                https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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                                • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

                                  @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

                                  https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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                                  #42

                                  @gcvsa Let that be a problem for the French state's lawyers! BTW, the French product is called "Suite Visio" and it's part of "LaSuite" https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ (you have 23 trademarks for that word and they can co-exist because they are different.)

                                  . @j0ebaldw1n @jim

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                                  • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

                                    @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

                                    https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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                                    #43

                                    @gcvsa @NatureMC @jim They do, French trademark registration FR98727661, which applies to computer software and communication via an online service https://data.inpi.fr/marques/FR98727661?q=#FR98727661

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                                    • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                                      Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                                      But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                                      https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                                      https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                                      #44

                                      @jim Très bonne nouvelle ! 🇨🇵🇪🇺

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                                      • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                                        Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                                        But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                                        https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                                        https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                                        #45

                                        @jim daily reminder that the secret french service signed a three year contract with palantir
                                        https://21stcenturywire.com/2025/12/17/outsourcing-security-the-palantir-paradox-at-the-heart-of-french-intelligence/

                                        So I would not say the digital sovereignty is here

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                                        • cos@fosstodon.orgC cos@fosstodon.org

                                          @jim any idea why they created a new one instead of using Element Call or Jitsi? Especially Element Call would be more or less compatible with Tchap they are already using. Does Visio have any technological advantages over them?

                                          #visio #elementcall #jitsi

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                                          #46

                                          @cos @jim
                                          Short answer seems to be : scalability.
                                          They have calling integrated in tchap, but don't advise it for calls with more than 2 people, they also have a jitsi-based service called "WebConf" which is advised for up to 50 people. Visio is up to 150 and Webinaire 350. All based on different technologies.

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