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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

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  • j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.socialJ j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.social

    @jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...

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    #37

    @j0ebaldw1n Visio is a normal word in French, the abbreviation of visioconférence. Normal words can't be trademarked so easily - and they use it only for France.
    You can be sure that the state can afford the best solicitors. 😉

    @jim

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    • ananas@scicomm.xyzA ananas@scicomm.xyz

      @humanhorseshoes @jim
      It's MIT licenced, so if you know what you're doing, yeah.

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      #38

      @ananas @humanhorseshoes @jim The linked article says no, so that's a little confusing.

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      • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

        @unruhe @jim I think the better question is how they contribute back to the open source projects they’re using. That repo shows a bunch of projects, and they have the resources to contribute back.

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        #39

        @acdha @jim good question!

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        • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

          Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

          But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

          https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

          https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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          #40

          RE: https://social.openrightsgroup.org/@jim/115966835615949718

          @jim
          @onepict
          does your project leaverage this code?

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          • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

            @j0ebaldw1n Visio is a normal word in French, the abbreviation of visioconférence. Normal words can't be trademarked so easily - and they use it only for France.
            You can be sure that the state can afford the best solicitors. 😉

            @jim

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            #41

            @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

            https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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            • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

              @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

              https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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              #42

              @gcvsa Let that be a problem for the French state's lawyers! BTW, the French product is called "Suite Visio" and it's part of "LaSuite" https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ (you have 23 trademarks for that word and they can co-exist because they are different.)

              . @j0ebaldw1n @jim

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              • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

                @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

                https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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                #43

                @gcvsa @NatureMC @jim They do, French trademark registration FR98727661, which applies to computer software and communication via an online service https://data.inpi.fr/marques/FR98727661?q=#FR98727661

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                • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                  Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                  But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                  https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                  https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                  #44

                  @jim Très bonne nouvelle ! 🇨🇵🇪🇺

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                  • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                    Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                    But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                    https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                    https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                    #45

                    @jim daily reminder that the secret french service signed a three year contract with palantir
                    https://21stcenturywire.com/2025/12/17/outsourcing-security-the-palantir-paradox-at-the-heart-of-french-intelligence/

                    So I would not say the digital sovereignty is here

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                    • cos@fosstodon.orgC cos@fosstodon.org

                      @jim any idea why they created a new one instead of using Element Call or Jitsi? Especially Element Call would be more or less compatible with Tchap they are already using. Does Visio have any technological advantages over them?

                      #visio #elementcall #jitsi

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                      #46

                      @cos @jim
                      Short answer seems to be : scalability.
                      They have calling integrated in tchap, but don't advise it for calls with more than 2 people, they also have a jitsi-based service called "WebConf" which is advised for up to 50 people. Visio is up to 150 and Webinaire 350. All based on different technologies.

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                      • gemlog@tilde.zoneG gemlog@tilde.zone

                        RE: https://social.openrightsgroup.org/@jim/115966835615949718

                        @jim
                        @onepict
                        does your project leaverage this code?

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                        #47

                        @gemlog @jim We've not taken a look at that yet. So I can't say how compatible it would be.

                        We're trying to build from the idea of a multicast Internet, which is not the same design principle that this is being built on. They need to build an alternative for now with the internet that we currently have. Which isn't designed for multicast.

                        I do welcome having alternatives to zoom for our governmental infrastructure to use.

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                        • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                          @jim Can any EU citizen or company use this?

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                          #48

                          @humanhorseshoes @jim
                          Short answer : no, not just like that.
                          Slightly longer answer :
                          You could self-host the software on a server or find someone else that does it and would grant access to you thanks to it being open source, but the French state only offers its own hosted service ("Visio" etc.) to its employees.

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