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What’s it like living in Minneapolis / St. Paul right now?

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  • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

    @inthehands @Nerde

    Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

    https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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    #41

    @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde

    We can’t claim progress after the George Floyd murder until the kinds of people hired to be police officers would refuse to support that type of letter (‘“FOP Stands with ICE" - Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police Condemns Rhetoric’). It’s not just a few bad apples.

    #uspol
    #minnesota
    #ice

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    • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

      @inthehands
      I am so sorry you are dealing with this.

      To try to prevent these situations, Human Rights First created an app called "Ready Now" for immigrants or anyone who might be abducted. I have it even though I'm white and a citizen by birth, because I do ICE watch. It gives you a "panic button" to push on your phone to send an emergency message to your chosen contacts that ICE may have taken you. Mine just asks my neighbor to feed the cats and get me a lawyer.

      https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/human-rights-first-launches-readynow-app-to-offer-lifeline-to-immigrants-during-ice-encounters/

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      #42

      @MaryAustinBooks @inthehands
      Thanks for posting! I posted the website’s info on our local 50501 subreddit.

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      • M minnesota411988@mastodon.social

        @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde

        We can’t claim progress after the George Floyd murder until the kinds of people hired to be police officers would refuse to support that type of letter (‘“FOP Stands with ICE" - Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police Condemns Rhetoric’). It’s not just a few bad apples.

        #uspol
        #minnesota
        #ice

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        #43

        @inthehands @Nerde @Minnesota411988

        The most important thing about the line "a few bad apples" is the rest of the quote.

        It's not "a few bad apples are fine, you can eat around them" it's "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" but somehow has been twisted to mean the opposite of what it's supposed to.

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        • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

          @inthehands @Nerde @Minnesota411988

          The most important thing about the line "a few bad apples" is the rest of the quote.

          It's not "a few bad apples are fine, you can eat around them" it's "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" but somehow has been twisted to mean the opposite of what it's supposed to.

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          #44

          @gbargoud @Nerde @Minnesota411988
          I am always saying this!!

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          • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

            @inthehands @Nerde

            Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

            https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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            #45

            @gbargoud @inthehands
            They can “stand with ICE” all they want, but if ICE is breaking the law, their duty is to uphold the law. If they’re purposely allowing crime, then maybe demand resignations from the leadership

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            • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

              @axel_hartmann @inthehands I introduced my kids to those "Stolpersteine" (stumbling rocks/blocks), and now they gravely point them out whenever they discover them. It's IMHO one of the most important art projects of the last century, and has become an entire movement starting with the efforts of a single man, Gunter Demnig.

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              #46

              @jens @axel_hartmann @inthehands

              Mmm yeah but no. Firstly, it's irrelevant right now to the situation in the US. Commemorating the victims is something to be done AFTER the battle is won. Which it hasn't been.

              Also... the stolpersteine movement is a bit problematic.. they contact families and shame them into sponsoring/paying to have a stone installed. It started off ok, but I am not at all comfortable about how it has developed

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              • nerde@beige.partyN nerde@beige.party

                @gbargoud @inthehands
                They can “stand with ICE” all they want, but if ICE is breaking the law, their duty is to uphold the law. If they’re purposely allowing crime, then maybe demand resignations from the leadership

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                #47

                @inthehands @Nerde

                People have been demanding resignations from police leadership all over the country for years now. Especially in Minnesota after George Floyd's murder.

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                • nerde@beige.partyN nerde@beige.party

                  @gbargoud @inthehands
                  They can “stand with ICE” all they want, but if ICE is breaking the law, their duty is to uphold the law. If they’re purposely allowing crime, then maybe demand resignations from the leadership

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                  #48

                  @Nerde @gbargoud
                  Ah, if only upholding the law were actually what police do

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                  • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                    @inthehands @Nerde

                    Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

                    https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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                    #49

                    @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde

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                    • regordane@mastodon.me.ukR regordane@mastodon.me.uk

                      @noodlemaz @Radaghaz @inthehands

                      No. Seriously no. Stolpersteine have been laid in many places. AFTER NAZISM WAS DEFEATED. Fuck off with your putting down stones, that does nothing at all right now. Concentrate on actually combatting and defeating your Nazis FIRST.

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                      #50

                      @regordane @Radaghaz @inthehands
                      ...
                      Yeah, they're memorials. Obviously it's preferable (to say the least) to not need them in the first place.
                      They're not 'my' Nazis (hi from also Europe).

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                      • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                        @SharpCheddarGoblin @inthehands

                        The cops never say exactly who they "protect and serve"
                        #ACAB

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                        #51

                        @n_dimension @inthehands Oooh, I know this one! It's "capitalists". They serve and protect capitalists.

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                        • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

                          @MaryAustinBooks @inthehands
                          Thanks for posting! I posted the website’s info on our local 50501 subreddit.

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                          #52

                          @cynblogger @inthehands
                          Great! Thanks!

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                          • regordane@mastodon.me.ukR regordane@mastodon.me.uk

                            @noodlemaz @Radaghaz @inthehands

                            And yes, it may cost lives. It probably will. It did back then as well

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                            #53

                            @regordane @noodlemaz @inthehands
                            The point is to draw more people into the fight! The “street stones” function the same way that “Fight Back” wall murals by street artists do. Declare this space or territory “ours!”

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                            • radaghaz@mastodon.onlineR radaghaz@mastodon.online

                              @regordane @noodlemaz @inthehands
                              The point is to draw more people into the fight! The “street stones” function the same way that “Fight Back” wall murals by street artists do. Declare this space or territory “ours!”

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                              #54

                              @Radaghaz @inthehands nah I'm with @regordane - proactively stop them, don't wait til you have hundreds of thousands or millions of deaths at their hands first.
                              The stones are memorials. They are to recognise the lives that were stolen and the holes in communities they left behind. Much better not to have to create them at all.

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                              • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                @inthehands @Netux sure.. i get it. And i'm not saying I'm for it.. but at what point do people break?

                                At a certain point, making a clever sign and going to a protest feels insanely inefficient..

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                                #55

                                @codemonkeymike @inthehands @Netux it might feel inefficient, but have a read about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule

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                                • ketakater@social.vivaldi.netK ketakater@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @codemonkeymike @inthehands @Netux it might feel inefficient, but have a read about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule

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                                  #56

                                  @Ketakater @codemonkeymike @Netux
                                  I have a whole soapbox on this
                                  https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115403766112156810

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                                  • sophieschmieg@infosec.exchangeS sophieschmieg@infosec.exchange

                                    @paul_ipv6 @inthehands honestly, I've been wondering that for a while. If there is a masked, unidentified person abducting people in broad daylight, isn't it supposedly the police's job to stop them? I mean could be anyone, without a badge we can't know for sure, after all.

                                    (And I know, expecting the police to actually do their job instead of committing crimes themselves is a tall order, but still)

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                                    #57

                                    @sophieschmieg @paul_ipv6 @inthehands

                                    polices job is to stand between homeless people and shelter, as well as starving people and food

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                                    • rosethornranger@spore.socialR rosethornranger@spore.social

                                      @sophieschmieg @paul_ipv6 @inthehands

                                      polices job is to stand between homeless people and shelter, as well as starving people and food

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                                      #58

                                      @RosethornRanger @sophieschmieg @paul_ipv6
                                      If they’re in Minneapolis, their job is apparently to •bulldoze• the shelter

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                                      • lor@unredacted.socialL lor@unredacted.social

                                        @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde

                                        We have seen now from the many phone calls made to 911 that the police will not get involved. We are on our own when it comes to ICE.

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                                        #59

                                        @lor @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde@beige.party that "protect & serve" nonsense is looking pretty shaky right now...

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          What’s it like living in Minneapolis / St. Paul right now?

                                          This weekend, ICE abducted two people straight out of a car near where I live. Just straight up stopped the car and took them.

                                          I found out because neighbors were trying to figure out what to do with the car, which ICE just left there blocking the street.

                                          1/

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                                          #60

                                          @inthehands

                                          What every US citizen can do NOW:
                                          get an ever growing mass of concerned to contact their reps, write/phone/email/scream outside their offices, with #impeachment demand, or, we #primary you with someone who will; find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
                                          https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative#

                                          Dear US Congressmember:

                                          As your constituent, I am demanding:
                                          Get together with your fellow representatives
                                          and Impeach President Trump, asap. ...
                                          Dear US Senator:

                                          As your constituent, I am demanding...

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