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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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    #49

    this. and that (and the love of books in general) drives me to hoard old books like this 800-pager «workout c» sirca 1992. do i need to (re-)learn c? nope. but the thought that i could without having to subject myself to this new internet trend is warming.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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      #50

      @Daojoan I can't agree more! I in particular do best learning through text and am good at scanning a document quickly to find what I need. I hate watching videos produced by amateurs with annoying speaking habits who spend the whole video drawing imaginary circles with their cursor around the menu item they are talking about!

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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        #51

        @Daojoan I only recently started realizing that more often than not, people are surprised to find that for the presentations I give, there usually is a full text written version, and that the references are links to actual text resources.

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        • elricofmelnibone@mastodon.socialE elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social

          @Daojoan I blame the platforms (Coursera, Udemy, etc). They all enable mediocre quality video peddlers to make a fair amount of money.

          A course-creation/monetization platform that didn't rely on video would probably be beneficial.

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          #52

          @elricofmelnibone @Daojoan and now you can't even audit the courses without paying, so good luck deciding from the bot comments if the course is actually legit or just an over-stretched, poorly-explained mess encouraging the use of the outdated tools!

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          • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

            @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

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            #53

            @fenixmaster @Daojoan you know it's bad when browsing documentation feels refreshing

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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              #54

              @Daojoan I agree. I usually put extra time into searching for text-based alternatives to these videos

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              • stevefenton@mastodon.socialS stevefenton@mastodon.social

                @Daojoan

                "How to save your Google Doc"

                00:00 Why digital files need to be saved
                07:24 A history of save icons
                23:32 Formats used by different office tools
                31:56 Famous errors caused by not saving files
                58:45 Saving files in Google Docs

                And all to say "they save automatically".

                Like and subscribe!

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                #55

                @stevefenton

                accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                @Daojoan

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                  #56

                  @Daojoan For almost everything I want to learn to do, if there is only video and no written guide, I just move on. I'm not wasting 10 minutes on something that should take 2. I'm not giving that fucker any clicks of encouragement.

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                    #57

                    @Daojoan this!! #annoying

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                    • gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      @stevefenton

                      accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                      @Daojoan

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                      #58

                      @gumnos @Daojoan hahaha!

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                        #59

                        @Daojoan what might help is to try different search engines that focus on blogs and lower the ranking based on ads and tracking.

                        https://searchmysite.net/

                        https://kagi.com/

                        https://www.mojeek.com/

                        https://mwmbl.org/

                        The big two trackers (google & bing) actively give big tech and ads supported websites higher ratings, leaving independent blogs in the dust, at page 8.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                          #60

                          @Daojoan

                          And if they do, it's AI slob which starts explaining how to turn on a PC, the history of computers in general, why <your problem> matters. Then there's the solution: click on <menu => option that doesn't exist>.

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                            #61

                            @Daojoan

                            Creators profit from YouTube's garbage business model to the detriment of those looking to actually learn anything.

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/NewTubers/comments/drqk8f/10_minute_videos_for_monetization_still_a_thing/

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                              #62

                              @Daojoan
                              once upon a time I lamented about this,
                              explaining the time and energy lost (to make and consult this), the inability to search for keywords.

                              nowadays I getvthe answer 'shitGpt can sum up for you, then search in it'.

                              I quit.

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                              • geospaz@mastodon.socialG geospaz@mastodon.social

                                @GentlemanTech @Daojoan so much this. I still refuse to listen anyone waffling about when trying to find a simple tech trick, i mute & put cc's on and jump about in a video (if no text-only help available) and when i hit the right keywords start listening.

                                I thought turning video tutorials to text would be the killer app for "ai" but meh. Maybe I should watch a video on how to vibecode a utube2txt .

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                                #63

                                @GentlemanTech @Daojoan @geospaz that's something :)) at least one could find the most relevant video based on the actual content not the title, hashtag, most viewed, taste of "similar" users, etc.

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                                • aoe@berlin.socialA aoe@berlin.social

                                  @Daojoan @sashabilton True. But there are exceptions.

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                                  #64

                                  @aoe @Daojoan always! And I really love watching making & tuition videos but as entertainment. And some are sometimes to the point but that's not how advertising based platforms work unfortunately.

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                    #65

                                    @Daojoan

                                    Are you setting up your AI skills.md file so that it only gives you the advertisements and weekly drama you're interested in instead of random ones after you ask it to write out a guide for you?

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                      #66

                                      @Daojoan “Could this 10 minute video have been a 2 minute read?”

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                        #67

                                        @Daojoan Roots feed the branches, and during any 'leap' change, as has been the computer age, there requires a countermeasure to fill the gap/deficit that's left in said "leap".

                                        And as a byproduct of millions of years, of harder physical differentials, placing too much weight on software, and far less on hardware, results in the inevitable asymmetry we're seeing now.

                                        May as well be a brain in a vat, while cockroaches inherit your past potential.

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                          #68

                                          @Daojoan if it's a video 9 times out of 10 I will not view it. If I must view it, I will not play it, but skip through it as fast as I can.

                                          If it's on YouTube? Forget it.

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