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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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    #45

    @Daojoan A guy I now work with documents internal procedures by linking to YT vids. I'm about ready to rewrite all our wiki pages

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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      #46

      @Daojoan I dont know if is this or that Discord replaced so many forums, that many problem solving answers and learning material is not searchable or will get lost forever.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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        #47

        @Daojoan No worries, we now have VibeMaster 2000™ to transform video tutorials into badly written and half-wrong written guides!

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        • gentlemantech@cyberplace.socialG gentlemantech@cyberplace.social

          @Daojoan drives me nuts. I can skim text and pick out the necessary info in seconds, but video takes *forever* even at 3x speed where they sound like rabid chipmunks

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          #48

          @GentlemanTech @Daojoan so much this. I still refuse to listen anyone waffling about when trying to find a simple tech trick, i mute & put cc's on and jump about in a video (if no text-only help available) and when i hit the right keywords start listening.

          I thought turning video tutorials to text would be the killer app for "ai" but meh. Maybe I should watch a video on how to vibecode a utube2txt .

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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            #49

            this. and that (and the love of books in general) drives me to hoard old books like this 800-pager «workout c» sirca 1992. do i need to (re-)learn c? nope. but the thought that i could without having to subject myself to this new internet trend is warming.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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              #50

              @Daojoan I can't agree more! I in particular do best learning through text and am good at scanning a document quickly to find what I need. I hate watching videos produced by amateurs with annoying speaking habits who spend the whole video drawing imaginary circles with their cursor around the menu item they are talking about!

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                #51

                @Daojoan I only recently started realizing that more often than not, people are surprised to find that for the presentations I give, there usually is a full text written version, and that the references are links to actual text resources.

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                • elricofmelnibone@mastodon.socialE elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social

                  @Daojoan I blame the platforms (Coursera, Udemy, etc). They all enable mediocre quality video peddlers to make a fair amount of money.

                  A course-creation/monetization platform that didn't rely on video would probably be beneficial.

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                  #52

                  @elricofmelnibone @Daojoan and now you can't even audit the courses without paying, so good luck deciding from the bot comments if the course is actually legit or just an over-stretched, poorly-explained mess encouraging the use of the outdated tools!

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                  • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                    @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

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                    #53

                    @fenixmaster @Daojoan you know it's bad when browsing documentation feels refreshing

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                      #54

                      @Daojoan I agree. I usually put extra time into searching for text-based alternatives to these videos

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                      • stevefenton@mastodon.socialS stevefenton@mastodon.social

                        @Daojoan

                        "How to save your Google Doc"

                        00:00 Why digital files need to be saved
                        07:24 A history of save icons
                        23:32 Formats used by different office tools
                        31:56 Famous errors caused by not saving files
                        58:45 Saving files in Google Docs

                        And all to say "they save automatically".

                        Like and subscribe!

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                        #55

                        @stevefenton

                        accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                        @Daojoan

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                          #56

                          @Daojoan For almost everything I want to learn to do, if there is only video and no written guide, I just move on. I'm not wasting 10 minutes on something that should take 2. I'm not giving that fucker any clicks of encouragement.

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                            #57

                            @Daojoan this!! #annoying

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                            • gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @stevefenton

                              accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                              @Daojoan

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                              #58

                              @gumnos @Daojoan hahaha!

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                #59

                                @Daojoan what might help is to try different search engines that focus on blogs and lower the ranking based on ads and tracking.

                                https://searchmysite.net/

                                https://kagi.com/

                                https://www.mojeek.com/

                                https://mwmbl.org/

                                The big two trackers (google & bing) actively give big tech and ads supported websites higher ratings, leaving independent blogs in the dust, at page 8.

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                  #60

                                  @Daojoan

                                  And if they do, it's AI slob which starts explaining how to turn on a PC, the history of computers in general, why <your problem> matters. Then there's the solution: click on <menu => option that doesn't exist>.

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                    #61

                                    @Daojoan

                                    Creators profit from YouTube's garbage business model to the detriment of those looking to actually learn anything.

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/NewTubers/comments/drqk8f/10_minute_videos_for_monetization_still_a_thing/

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                      #62

                                      @Daojoan
                                      once upon a time I lamented about this,
                                      explaining the time and energy lost (to make and consult this), the inability to search for keywords.

                                      nowadays I getvthe answer 'shitGpt can sum up for you, then search in it'.

                                      I quit.

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                                      • geospaz@mastodon.socialG geospaz@mastodon.social

                                        @GentlemanTech @Daojoan so much this. I still refuse to listen anyone waffling about when trying to find a simple tech trick, i mute & put cc's on and jump about in a video (if no text-only help available) and when i hit the right keywords start listening.

                                        I thought turning video tutorials to text would be the killer app for "ai" but meh. Maybe I should watch a video on how to vibecode a utube2txt .

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                                        #63

                                        @GentlemanTech @Daojoan @geospaz that's something :)) at least one could find the most relevant video based on the actual content not the title, hashtag, most viewed, taste of "similar" users, etc.

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                                        • aoe@berlin.socialA aoe@berlin.social

                                          @Daojoan @sashabilton True. But there are exceptions.

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                                          #64

                                          @aoe @Daojoan always! And I really love watching making & tuition videos but as entertainment. And some are sometimes to the point but that's not how advertising based platforms work unfortunately.

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