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If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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  • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

    If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

    oddhack@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    #15

    @isotopp and the required controls might or might not do what they say, or might not do it in the next commit. Who can say? Mozilla is not credible on the topic.

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    • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

      If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

      raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @isotopp
      No, the AI features shouldn't be there to need turning off!
      They haven't listened ever I can remember on GUI (it's destroyed) or changes on plugins, or fixing bugs.
      I've dozens of non-AI settings I now have to change in about:config.
      They've made abysmal changes to Thunderbird. Using Firefox since 1.0.4

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      • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

        If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

        armin@milliways.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #17

        @isotopp I would be thankful if they could simply tell me what's actually going on instead of providing me with multiple "Learn more" links.

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        • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

          If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

          theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18

          @isotopp No, it should have been opt-in.

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          • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

            If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

            lerothas@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #19

            @isotopp
            1. The wording is absolute garbage. There is no enhancement with AI, it's annoyance and spyware.

            2. I'm already off FireSlop and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. 🤷‍♂️

            3. It should have been opt-in from the beginning and not an opt-out after community going rampage. 🤦‍♂️

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            • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

              If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

              binford2k@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @isotopp but now they gate translations behind #AI? Fuck that noise.

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              • binford2k@hachyderm.ioB binford2k@hachyderm.io

                @isotopp but now they gate translations behind #AI? Fuck that noise.

                isotopp@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                #21

                @binford2k it works well in practice. The global switch set to off does not prevent you from enabling individual settings.

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                • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                  If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

                  shia@mk.absturztau.beS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #22

                  @isotopp@infosec.exchange not a fun of AI, but the fox is cute ​​

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                  • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                    If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

                    jesterchen@social.tchncs.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #23

                    @isotopp Well... no. They shouldn't have bothered with AI from the begin with...

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                    • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                      If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

                      faduda@mastodon.ieF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #24

                      @isotopp

                      I'd have preferred AI-free (and I'm not planning on going back from AI-free forks anytime soon) but it's a start.

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                      • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                        If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                        #25

                        @isotopp
                        Block?

                        Still no option to disable. Words have meaning.

                        Like an ad blocker vs not having ads. Or a popup blocker vs if javascript never had a window.open function in the first place. "Block" is the one we use when trying to stop the browser from doing something, but the bad guys keep finding workarounds.

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                        • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                          If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                          #26

                          @isotopp waterfox! Dont trust Mozilla..

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                          • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                            If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                            #27

                            @isotopp and I now have to turn this on immediately

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                            • dave3307@beige.partyD dave3307@beige.party

                              @isotopp too late, I’m getting comfortable with Waterfox

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                              #28

                              @Dave3307 @isotopp yep, WF on Android, LibreWolf on Linux...

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                              • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                @binford2k it works well in practice. The global switch set to off does not prevent you from enabling individual settings.

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                                #29

                                @isotopp I missed that, thanks

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                                • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                  If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                  #30

                                  @isotopp too late. I've switched to Vivaldi; I'm not going back.

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                                  • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                    If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                    #31

                                    @isotopp Calling the new killswitch "Block AI enhancements" is such a shitty dark pattern.

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                                    • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                      If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                      #32

                                      @isotopp@infosec.exchange and instantly blocked this shit. 👍

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                                      • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                        If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

                                        energisch_@troet.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #33

                                        @isotopp hurra 👏 Browser OHNE K.I. Mist! #FireFox @firefox

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