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If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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  • liquor_american@universeodon.comL liquor_american@universeodon.com

    @isotopp Counterpoint: Mozilla has nothing but contempt for their users, and are treating us like complete idiots

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    #4

    @liquor_american @isotopp
    I'm just waiting to read "well, 'everything' is a debatable concept..."

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    • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

      If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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      #5

      @isotopp no, it should have been opt-in, not opt-out.

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      • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

        @liquor_american @isotopp
        I'm just waiting to read "well, 'everything' is a debatable concept..."

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        #6

        @RnDanger @isotopp They've already pulled that shit when they posted a poll heavily implying that translation was a big reason to keep everything enabled by default

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        • liquor_american@universeodon.comL liquor_american@universeodon.com

          @RnDanger @isotopp They've already pulled that shit when they posted a poll heavily implying that translation was a big reason to keep everything enabled by default

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          #7

          @liquor_american @isotopp oof, i was riffing on their confusion about "consent' but i guess i shouldn't be surprised 🙃

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          • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

            If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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            #8

            @isotopp But we don't have to stop, right?

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            • liquor_american@universeodon.comL liquor_american@universeodon.com

              @isotopp Counterpoint: Mozilla has nothing but contempt for their users, and are treating us like complete idiots

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              #9

              @liquor_american @isotopp As opposed to the other tech providers?

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              • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                #10

                @isotopp

                How hard do we have to beat them up to get them to stop working on this AI stuff and focus on making the browser good?

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                • rrb@infosec.exchangeR rrb@infosec.exchange

                  @liquor_american @isotopp As opposed to the other tech providers?

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                  #11

                  @rrb @isotopp "Yet you participate in society! Curious! I am very intelligent."

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                  • liquor_american@universeodon.comL liquor_american@universeodon.com

                    @rrb @isotopp "Yet you participate in society! Curious! I am very intelligent."

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                    #12

                    @liquor_american @isotopp I am open to alternatives.

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                    • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                      If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                      #13

                      @isotopp too late, I’m getting comfortable with Waterfox

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                      • megamichelle@a2mi.socialM megamichelle@a2mi.social

                        @isotopp

                        How hard do we have to beat them up to get them to stop working on this AI stuff and focus on making the browser good?

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                        #14

                        @MegaMichelle @isotopp They should still be able to do the job …

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                        • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                          If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                          #15

                          @isotopp and the required controls might or might not do what they say, or might not do it in the next commit. Who can say? Mozilla is not credible on the topic.

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                          • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                            If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                            #16

                            @isotopp
                            No, the AI features shouldn't be there to need turning off!
                            They haven't listened ever I can remember on GUI (it's destroyed) or changes on plugins, or fixing bugs.
                            I've dozens of non-AI settings I now have to change in about:config.
                            They've made abysmal changes to Thunderbird. Using Firefox since 1.0.4

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                            • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                              If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                              #17

                              @isotopp I would be thankful if they could simply tell me what's actually going on instead of providing me with multiple "Learn more" links.

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                              • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                #18

                                @isotopp No, it should have been opt-in.

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                                • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                  If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                  #19

                                  @isotopp
                                  1. The wording is absolute garbage. There is no enhancement with AI, it's annoyance and spyware.

                                  2. I'm already off FireSlop and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. 🤷‍♂️

                                  3. It should have been opt-in from the beginning and not an opt-out after community going rampage. 🤦‍♂️

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                                  • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                    If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                    #20

                                    @isotopp but now they gate translations behind #AI? Fuck that noise.

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                                    • binford2k@hachyderm.ioB binford2k@hachyderm.io

                                      @isotopp but now they gate translations behind #AI? Fuck that noise.

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                                      #21

                                      @binford2k it works well in practice. The global switch set to off does not prevent you from enabling individual settings.

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                                      • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                        If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                        #22

                                        @isotopp@infosec.exchange not a fun of AI, but the fox is cute ​​

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                                        • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI isotopp@infosec.exchange

                                          If you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.

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                                          #23

                                          @isotopp Well... no. They shouldn't have bothered with AI from the begin with...

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