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Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

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  • grutjes@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

    For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

    Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

    #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

    realtegan@wandering.shopR monkey@greatape.casaM populistensohn@climatejustice.socialP tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.socialT 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

      Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

      For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

      Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

      #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

      realtegan@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @Grutjes
      This is why I dumped the bridge. If they're welcoming and verifying accounts from fascists, they're the Nazi bar. I'm not risking anyone here by "federating" with fascists.

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      • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

        Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

        For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

        Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

        #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

        monkey@greatape.casaM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @Grutjes I don't think that's really ice lol

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        • monkey@greatape.casaM monkey@greatape.casa

          @Grutjes I don't think that's really ice lol

          grutjes@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @monkey

          Maybe you could check something before "thinking" out loud.

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          • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

            @monkey

            Maybe you could check something before "thinking" out loud.

            monkey@greatape.casaM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @Grutjes idk just my take that's surreal to me they'd make a blue sky account. Seems like a weird place for them.

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            • monkey@greatape.casaM monkey@greatape.casa

              @Grutjes idk just my take that's surreal to me they'd make a blue sky account. Seems like a weird place for them.

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              #6

              @monkey
              Being on Bluesky allows ICE to recruit there, spread propaganda there, and follow anti-ICE accounts to more easily get information about protests or people to target. From ICE's point of view, there's no reason to not have an account there.

              Bluesky and its fediverse bridges are now dangerous to anyone ICE may target (which may end up being a much wider section of the population than currently).

              @Grutjes

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              • lady_alys@hachyderm.ioL lady_alys@hachyderm.io

                @monkey
                Being on Bluesky allows ICE to recruit there, spread propaganda there, and follow anti-ICE accounts to more easily get information about protests or people to target. From ICE's point of view, there's no reason to not have an account there.

                Bluesky and its fediverse bridges are now dangerous to anyone ICE may target (which may end up being a much wider section of the population than currently).

                @Grutjes

                energisch_@troet.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                • realtegan@wandering.shopR realtegan@wandering.shop

                  @Grutjes
                  This is why I dumped the bridge. If they're welcoming and verifying accounts from fascists, they're the Nazi bar. I'm not risking anyone here by "federating" with fascists.

                  energisch_@troet.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    mr_gharice@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @energisch_
                    I think it's the algorithm that some people want to have. But that's also what makes it so weak to manipulation.
                    @realtegan @Grutjes

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                    • mr_gharice@mastodon.socialM mr_gharice@mastodon.social

                      @energisch_
                      I think it's the algorithm that some people want to have. But that's also what makes it so weak to manipulation.
                      @realtegan @Grutjes

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                      • helgarhelgar@digitalcourage.socialH helgarhelgar@digitalcourage.social shared this topic
                      • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

                        Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

                        For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

                        Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

                        #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

                        populistensohn@climatejustice.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @hakendran
                        FYI
                        Gesehen?
                        @Grutjes

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                        • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

                          Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

                          For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

                          Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

                          #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

                          tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @Grutjes
                          Curious questions in this context: What would happen if #ICE tried to create an account i.e. on mastodon.social?
                          1. Would the community rules prevent this?
                          2. Would the account be active until a number of users would report content that actually offends their community rules?
                          3. If they can also verify prove access to ICE's official website - wouldn't it be "verified" automatically?
                          4. How many servers would actually degenerate from Mastodon's biggest server because of one account? 🙄

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                          • tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.socialT tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.social

                            @Grutjes
                            Curious questions in this context: What would happen if #ICE tried to create an account i.e. on mastodon.social?
                            1. Would the community rules prevent this?
                            2. Would the account be active until a number of users would report content that actually offends their community rules?
                            3. If they can also verify prove access to ICE's official website - wouldn't it be "verified" automatically?
                            4. How many servers would actually degenerate from Mastodon's biggest server because of one account? 🙄

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                            #13

                            @Grutjes
                            And if ICE registered a Mastodon account with a smaller server whose community rules would not prohibit ICE's content - how long would it take for servers that represent more than half of the Fediverse's users to actually defederate that server?

                            Just take sure I'm not mistaken on this issue: I despise ICE's actions and the political agenda it stands for.
                            I'm just not sure whether the Fediverse could guarantee a "better" reaction to an attempt to register an account here

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                            • tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.socialT tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.social

                              @Grutjes
                              And if ICE registered a Mastodon account with a smaller server whose community rules would not prohibit ICE's content - how long would it take for servers that represent more than half of the Fediverse's users to actually defederate that server?

                              Just take sure I'm not mistaken on this issue: I despise ICE's actions and the political agenda it stands for.
                              I'm just not sure whether the Fediverse could guarantee a "better" reaction to an attempt to register an account here

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                              #14

                              @tetrapyloctomist @Grutjes depends on the individual server / admin ... the big instances usually allow anything which is not against the law in their jurisdiction.
                              but you can always block accounts or even complete instances

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                              • populistensohn@climatejustice.socialP populistensohn@climatejustice.social

                                @hakendran
                                FYI
                                Gesehen?
                                @Grutjes

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                                #15

                                @populistensohn @Grutjes ich hab da vielleicht eine unpopuläre Meinung, aber das verifizieren von authentischen Accounts ist doch kein endorsement?

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                                • hakendran@social.heise.deH hakendran@social.heise.de

                                  @populistensohn @Grutjes ich hab da vielleicht eine unpopuläre Meinung, aber das verifizieren von authentischen Accounts ist doch kein endorsement?

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                                  #16

                                  @hakendran@social.heise.de @populistensohn@climatejustice.social @Grutjes@mstdn.social Ich glaub, es geht darum, daß man sie überhaupt auf die Plattform läßt. Kuck mal, wem der Account folgt... Und wir wissen alle, wofür sie den Acc nutzen werden. Kann man schon kritisch sehen.

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