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Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

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  • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

    Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

    For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

    Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

    #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

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    #3

    @Grutjes I don't think that's really ice lol

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    • monkey@greatape.casaM monkey@greatape.casa

      @Grutjes I don't think that's really ice lol

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      #4

      @monkey

      Maybe you could check something before "thinking" out loud.

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      • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

        @monkey

        Maybe you could check something before "thinking" out loud.

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        #5

        @Grutjes idk just my take that's surreal to me they'd make a blue sky account. Seems like a weird place for them.

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        • monkey@greatape.casaM monkey@greatape.casa

          @Grutjes idk just my take that's surreal to me they'd make a blue sky account. Seems like a weird place for them.

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          #6

          @monkey
          Being on Bluesky allows ICE to recruit there, spread propaganda there, and follow anti-ICE accounts to more easily get information about protests or people to target. From ICE's point of view, there's no reason to not have an account there.

          Bluesky and its fediverse bridges are now dangerous to anyone ICE may target (which may end up being a much wider section of the population than currently).

          @Grutjes

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          • lady_alys@hachyderm.ioL lady_alys@hachyderm.io

            @monkey
            Being on Bluesky allows ICE to recruit there, spread propaganda there, and follow anti-ICE accounts to more easily get information about protests or people to target. From ICE's point of view, there's no reason to not have an account there.

            Bluesky and its fediverse bridges are now dangerous to anyone ICE may target (which may end up being a much wider section of the population than currently).

            @Grutjes

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            • realtegan@wandering.shopR realtegan@wandering.shop

              @Grutjes
              This is why I dumped the bridge. If they're welcoming and verifying accounts from fascists, they're the Nazi bar. I'm not risking anyone here by "federating" with fascists.

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                #9

                @energisch_
                I think it's the algorithm that some people want to have. But that's also what makes it so weak to manipulation.
                @realtegan @Grutjes

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                • mr_gharice@mastodon.socialM mr_gharice@mastodon.social

                  @energisch_
                  I think it's the algorithm that some people want to have. But that's also what makes it so weak to manipulation.
                  @realtegan @Grutjes

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                  • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

                    Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

                    For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

                    Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

                    #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

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                    #11

                    @hakendran
                    FYI
                    Gesehen?
                    @Grutjes

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                    • grutjes@mstdn.socialG grutjes@mstdn.social

                      Wow. Bluesky has just welcomed and verified ICE.

                      For anyone still thinking Bsky is a real alternative to Twitter: No, it's not.

                      Mastodon is. Bsky is just X at its infancy.

                      #ICE #Bsky #Bluesky #fascism

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                      #12

                      @Grutjes
                      Curious questions in this context: What would happen if #ICE tried to create an account i.e. on mastodon.social?
                      1. Would the community rules prevent this?
                      2. Would the account be active until a number of users would report content that actually offends their community rules?
                      3. If they can also verify prove access to ICE's official website - wouldn't it be "verified" automatically?
                      4. How many servers would actually degenerate from Mastodon's biggest server because of one account? 🙄

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                      • tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.socialT tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.social

                        @Grutjes
                        Curious questions in this context: What would happen if #ICE tried to create an account i.e. on mastodon.social?
                        1. Would the community rules prevent this?
                        2. Would the account be active until a number of users would report content that actually offends their community rules?
                        3. If they can also verify prove access to ICE's official website - wouldn't it be "verified" automatically?
                        4. How many servers would actually degenerate from Mastodon's biggest server because of one account? 🙄

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                        #13

                        @Grutjes
                        And if ICE registered a Mastodon account with a smaller server whose community rules would not prohibit ICE's content - how long would it take for servers that represent more than half of the Fediverse's users to actually defederate that server?

                        Just take sure I'm not mistaken on this issue: I despise ICE's actions and the political agenda it stands for.
                        I'm just not sure whether the Fediverse could guarantee a "better" reaction to an attempt to register an account here

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                        • tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.socialT tetrapyloctomist@muenchen.social

                          @Grutjes
                          And if ICE registered a Mastodon account with a smaller server whose community rules would not prohibit ICE's content - how long would it take for servers that represent more than half of the Fediverse's users to actually defederate that server?

                          Just take sure I'm not mistaken on this issue: I despise ICE's actions and the political agenda it stands for.
                          I'm just not sure whether the Fediverse could guarantee a "better" reaction to an attempt to register an account here

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                          #14

                          @tetrapyloctomist @Grutjes depends on the individual server / admin ... the big instances usually allow anything which is not against the law in their jurisdiction.
                          but you can always block accounts or even complete instances

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                          • populistensohn@climatejustice.socialP populistensohn@climatejustice.social

                            @hakendran
                            FYI
                            Gesehen?
                            @Grutjes

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                            #15

                            @populistensohn @Grutjes ich hab da vielleicht eine unpopuläre Meinung, aber das verifizieren von authentischen Accounts ist doch kein endorsement?

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                            • hakendran@social.heise.deH hakendran@social.heise.de

                              @populistensohn @Grutjes ich hab da vielleicht eine unpopuläre Meinung, aber das verifizieren von authentischen Accounts ist doch kein endorsement?

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                              #16

                              @hakendran@social.heise.de @populistensohn@climatejustice.social @Grutjes@mstdn.social Ich glaub, es geht darum, daß man sie überhaupt auf die Plattform läßt. Kuck mal, wem der Account folgt... Und wir wissen alle, wofür sie den Acc nutzen werden. Kann man schon kritisch sehen.

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