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  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

    Hypocrites.

    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

    splinux@mastodon.unoS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #37

    @simonbs but they point to a.great problem. Alibaba uses its endpoint to simulate millions of users to scrape the internet. Especially open source and free software in a barbarian way, Vandals to be precise, externalizing their cost of their assaults to the people of the internet. And I welcome the unethical to tell us who is even worse and the moralless. Please continue calling one the other out.

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    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

      Hypocrites.

      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

      accela@libretooth.grA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #38

      @simonbs i mean it's even worse, scraping usually involves extracting data for free. Claude on the other hand is not a free service.
      They got paid and still crying about it.

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      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

        Hypocrites.

        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

        K This user is from outside of this forum
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        kerplunk@mastodon.scot
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        #39

        @simonbs

        Anthropic Assholes

        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you.

        But But
        But anyone from trumpistan is a good thief, spy. pedo, rapist self enriching moronic klan thug et al.

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        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

          Hypocrites.

          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

          jess@blop.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #40

          @simonbs Is that the sound of the world's tiniest violin I hear?

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          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

            Hypocrites.

            You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

            silvermoon82@wandering.shopS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #41

            @simonbs
            1. *tardigrade-smallest-violin.gif*

            2. We already know, and have studied and demonstrated, how training one model off the output of another, doesn't work. This is a big sad boo-hoo over nothing at all.

            3. Their entire industry is founded on stealing all IP ever, from everywhere. Suck it.

            4. *loughborough-university-smallest-violin.gif*

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            • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

              Hypocrites.

              You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

              djtoebeans@mendeddrum.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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              djtoebeans@mendeddrum.org
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              #42

              @simonbs

              I can't seem to find my tiny violin.

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              • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                Hypocrites.

                You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #43

                @simonbs

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                • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

                  @simonbs So much use for this meme pic lately.

                  djtoebeans@mendeddrum.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #44

                  @jukkan

                  Oh, I'm so stealing that. 😆

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                  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                    Hypocrites.

                    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                    melgu@norden.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #45

                    @simonbs This is doubly ironic considering they at least got paid when their competitors accessed their content.

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                    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                      Hypocrites.

                      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                      pglpm@c.imP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #46

                      @simonbs I hope someone gave them this reply in their original post...

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                      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                        Hypocrites.

                        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                        jimmylittle@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #47

                        @simonbs This is just corporate BS. Publicly announcing this in case at some point in the future there’s some whackadoo law that says you can copyright AI training or some nonsense.

                        It’s as dumb as most patents or “you have to defend your trademark to keep it” - all just there to prop up the corporate lawyers.

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                        • H hiiaminfi@mastodon.social

                          @nighthawk @simonbs

                          https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/

                          This article might be of interest to you then. Core idea is that that AI in its current meaning is antithetical to open source as it has been understood or free software as it was defined by the FSF. You know, because if they told you everything they trained on, someone motivated should start looking for the entire Harry Potter universe in there just to name a prominent example that has already been in the news for Anthropic specifically.

                          utf_7@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #48

                          @hiiaminfi @nighthawk @simonbs

                          now always closed open but minded

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                          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                            Hypocrites.

                            You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                            wastelandwandrr@freeradical.zoneW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #49

                            @simonbs

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