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Have you always be fascinated by space and its exploration?

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  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

    @mina May I give you the facts about the NASA budgets: https://ourplnt.com/budget-of-nasa-year-by-year/ (1958-2024). And please don't forget the budgets of ESA and CSA.

    Economically, the earnings are mostly indirectly: with the first moon landing it was the "birth" of the modern computer industry and the hegemony of the US in these areas. We feel the consequences today in our dependence!
    ESA + CSA are connected to this program also for more independance, even if this might sound contradictory.

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    @NatureMC

    That's a great statistic!

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    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

      @mina For your prophecy I linked to these 3 books ...

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      @NatureMC

      We shall see.

      Also, I'm going to look which of the three, I'm going to order first.

      After all, I still have a sweet spot for all things spacey.

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      • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

        @mina
        It should be unmanned. Between a core launcher that leaks and a heat shield that can't actually take the heat, this is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

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        @RealGene

        I hope, everything goes fine for those aboard.

        But yes: Unmanned would be better.

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        • S syn_rst@norden.social

          @mina
          The fundamental difference between Apollo and Artemis is: Apollo was literally impossible before it was done in 1969.
          The rest of Apollo was replicating results, proving it was not just one lucky shot.

          Artemis does what Apollo did, just with today's technology. Great. We know the computing power is available, we have powerful enough rockets.

          IMHO Artemis just proves we can still write software good enough to land on the moon.
          Which is honestly something I'd doubt, with AI slop around…

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          @syn_rst

          I reckon, the main challenge today is the organization.

          Back in the day, NASA did a great job, bringing all the talent and the industrial resources together to build something amazing.

          With today's tech, it should be a piece of cake, but it still isn't.

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          • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

            @syn_rst

            I reckon, the main challenge today is the organization.

            Back in the day, NASA did a great job, bringing all the talent and the industrial resources together to build something amazing.

            With today's tech, it should be a piece of cake, but it still isn't.

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            @mina

            because it's rocket science?

            @syn_rst

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            • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

              @mina

              because it's rocket science?

              @syn_rst

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              @echopapa

              Well, most rocket scientists nowadays work in finance.

              @syn_rst

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              • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                @echopapa

                Well, most rocket scientists nowadays work in finance.

                @syn_rst

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                @mina

                and the finance people are building Elons BFR? No wonder if something explodes during every flight.

                @syn_rst

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                • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                  @mina
                  It should be unmanned. Between a core launcher that leaks and a heat shield that can't actually take the heat, this is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

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                  @RealGene @mina Well, an unmanned flight around the moon actually happened in 2022: Artemis I.

                  In fact, before the first landing on the moon by Apollo XI there were two mission (VIII & X) that just circled the moon to test systems and procedures.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_I

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                  • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                    @syn_rst

                    I reckon, the main challenge today is the organization.

                    Back in the day, NASA did a great job, bringing all the talent and the industrial resources together to build something amazing.

                    With today's tech, it should be a piece of cake, but it still isn't.

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                    #41

                    @mina
                    The tech is likely not the problem.
                    Reliability is a different matter.

                    There's no truck stop in space. And a blank navigation system is not an option.

                    Current chips are surprisingly susceptible to (cosmic) radiation, an issue simply non-existent in the 1960 due to structure size.

                    Yes, we do have the tech.
                    Making it work at 100% reliability in space is a different matter. Especially with CEOs whose primary target is to get rich, not to the moon.

                    Today's rocket science: Making CEOs work.

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                    • agitatra@berlin.socialA agitatra@berlin.social

                      @RealGene @mina Well, an unmanned flight around the moon actually happened in 2022: Artemis I.

                      In fact, before the first landing on the moon by Apollo XI there were two mission (VIII & X) that just circled the moon to test systems and procedures.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_I

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                      @agitatra

                      Apollo 8 & 10 did more than a flyby - they entered Moon's orbit.

                      @RealGene

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