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Have you always be fascinated by space and its exploration?

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  • skyfire747@aus.socialS skyfire747@aus.social

    @mina the flyby is a test flight for the rocket systems. Btw they did the same thing with the Apollo rocket.

    The rocket is a NASA one which is owned by the US government.

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    @skyfire747

    Actually, Apollo 8 did not a flyby, but entered into moon orbit which it left after 10 rounds.

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    • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

      @mina @NatureMC @sundogplanets @mountdiscovery

      The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress...

      look at the number of failed moon missions

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon

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      @echopapa

      Nicely put!

      @NatureMC @sundogplanets @mountdiscovery

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      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

        @mina May I give you the facts about the NASA budgets: https://ourplnt.com/budget-of-nasa-year-by-year/ (1958-2024). And please don't forget the budgets of ESA and CSA.

        Economically, the earnings are mostly indirectly: with the first moon landing it was the "birth" of the modern computer industry and the hegemony of the US in these areas. We feel the consequences today in our dependence!
        ESA + CSA are connected to this program also for more independance, even if this might sound contradictory.

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        @NatureMC

        That's a great statistic!

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        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

          @mina For your prophecy I linked to these 3 books ...

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          @NatureMC

          We shall see.

          Also, I'm going to look which of the three, I'm going to order first.

          After all, I still have a sweet spot for all things spacey.

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          • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

            @mina
            It should be unmanned. Between a core launcher that leaks and a heat shield that can't actually take the heat, this is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

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            @RealGene

            I hope, everything goes fine for those aboard.

            But yes: Unmanned would be better.

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            • S syn_rst@norden.social

              @mina
              The fundamental difference between Apollo and Artemis is: Apollo was literally impossible before it was done in 1969.
              The rest of Apollo was replicating results, proving it was not just one lucky shot.

              Artemis does what Apollo did, just with today's technology. Great. We know the computing power is available, we have powerful enough rockets.

              IMHO Artemis just proves we can still write software good enough to land on the moon.
              Which is honestly something I'd doubt, with AI slop around…

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              @syn_rst

              I reckon, the main challenge today is the organization.

              Back in the day, NASA did a great job, bringing all the talent and the industrial resources together to build something amazing.

              With today's tech, it should be a piece of cake, but it still isn't.

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              • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                @syn_rst

                I reckon, the main challenge today is the organization.

                Back in the day, NASA did a great job, bringing all the talent and the industrial resources together to build something amazing.

                With today's tech, it should be a piece of cake, but it still isn't.

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                @mina

                because it's rocket science?

                @syn_rst

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                • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                  @mina

                  because it's rocket science?

                  @syn_rst

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                  @echopapa

                  Well, most rocket scientists nowadays work in finance.

                  @syn_rst

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                  • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                    @echopapa

                    Well, most rocket scientists nowadays work in finance.

                    @syn_rst

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                    @mina

                    and the finance people are building Elons BFR? No wonder if something explodes during every flight.

                    @syn_rst

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                    • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                      @mina
                      It should be unmanned. Between a core launcher that leaks and a heat shield that can't actually take the heat, this is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

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                      @RealGene @mina Well, an unmanned flight around the moon actually happened in 2022: Artemis I.

                      In fact, before the first landing on the moon by Apollo XI there were two mission (VIII & X) that just circled the moon to test systems and procedures.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_I

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                      • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                        @syn_rst

                        I reckon, the main challenge today is the organization.

                        Back in the day, NASA did a great job, bringing all the talent and the industrial resources together to build something amazing.

                        With today's tech, it should be a piece of cake, but it still isn't.

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                        @mina
                        The tech is likely not the problem.
                        Reliability is a different matter.

                        There's no truck stop in space. And a blank navigation system is not an option.

                        Current chips are surprisingly susceptible to (cosmic) radiation, an issue simply non-existent in the 1960 due to structure size.

                        Yes, we do have the tech.
                        Making it work at 100% reliability in space is a different matter. Especially with CEOs whose primary target is to get rich, not to the moon.

                        Today's rocket science: Making CEOs work.

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                        • agitatra@berlin.socialA agitatra@berlin.social

                          @RealGene @mina Well, an unmanned flight around the moon actually happened in 2022: Artemis I.

                          In fact, before the first landing on the moon by Apollo XI there were two mission (VIII & X) that just circled the moon to test systems and procedures.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_I

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                          @agitatra

                          Apollo 8 & 10 did more than a flyby - they entered Moon's orbit.

                          @RealGene

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