This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
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I've heard the cliche before, I understand it, I just reject it.
You're better than someone who wants to deport a child, or I don't know what to tell you. People who wouldn't are better than people who would.
Did something in our society make them that way? Maybe. Are the people who don't want to deport small children responsible for the ones who do, somehow? Absolutely fucking not.
They are monsters of each other's making, perhaps, not ours.
@edgeofeurope @futurebird @petealexharris the problem with that attitude is that it makes people start thinking that bad people are easy to spot, or far away. It makes them blind to what their family, friends, or neighbors do because they're obviously not monsters. People are very quick to dismiss accusations of being a nazi or fascist because they genuinely can't wrap their head around that being a possibility.
Maybe you're not susceptible to that bias but the average person sure is.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird That's the banality of racism, an idea the usa were built on, western countries in general love this one...
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
These people are deranged and not only are victims of the propaganda, but lack any sense of compassion. They don't realize that they can become the "illegals" in the next phase of this insanity. -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
Adults turning on each other is one thing, adults (esp those in positions of trust) turning on children, is dispicable and cruel.
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@futurebird is this real? I don’t want to criticise good work, but the audio quality is so high, is it really a call? Are people really this horrid??
@specialmonkeytom @futurebird Ben Palmer has been doing stuff like this to real MAGAts for a while. It's unlikely he would pivot to fiction for something like this
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@futurebird If you needed a reminder of how stupid half the US is, here's a good reminder.
@mast0d0nphan "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
—George Carlin, philosopher, sociologist, and spoken-word poet -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird this is one of the most horrible and important things I have listened to in all the day. Thank you for posting it.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
So love this, but oof, these people -
@edgeofeurope @futurebird @petealexharris the problem with that attitude is that it makes people start thinking that bad people are easy to spot, or far away. It makes them blind to what their family, friends, or neighbors do because they're obviously not monsters. People are very quick to dismiss accusations of being a nazi or fascist because they genuinely can't wrap their head around that being a possibility.
Maybe you're not susceptible to that bias but the average person sure is.
@jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird
That's not what I said tho. The trouble with saying "they are like us" instead of "they act like us socially to get what they want" or "any of us could be like that" instead of "you can tell who is like that by what they support" is it makes monsters harder to spot; it denies they even really exist (or gives them space to hide behind that phrasing).
And people being quick to dismiss accusations is not, in fact, a reason to avoid accurate accusations.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
That fwawking woman is evil to her asshole. Monster.
And she handles young children.
Great nation ya got here. -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird There's this effect, donno the right terminology in English : you feel better off if your neighbor has bad luck. Seems like that is the case here
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You can use google voice to make free calls to US phone numbers.
Ooooooooooo
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
It's disheartening to see people snitching on their neighbors like they did in east Germany when the StaSi was around. -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird We're all wondering how a loser like Trump can rise to power, and then we hear this woman and we're "Oh right, I see it now."
Then we move to wondering how someone so stupid and un-introspective manages to exist.
And then it's...turtles all the way down.
An unhappy realization.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird that was quite a listen. Shit’s crazy
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@futurebird is this real? I don’t want to criticise good work, but the audio quality is so high, is it really a call? Are people really this horrid??
Yes, call quality over SIP is that high. Yes, you can record to a very high level of call quality. Yes, people are really this horrid.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
The people who spread hate really don't like to hear their own words read back to them. How ironic is that?That woman has no business being a teacher or being anywhere near a school for that matter.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
This is how authoritarian states work. You get one neighbor to call the state about another neighbor. Welcome to the United States of Russia and North Korea. -
That fwawking woman is evil to her asshole. Monster.
And she handles young children.
Great nation ya got here.@GGMcBG
I think the term "shithole" is more appropriate these days. -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird this was so absurd and lacking self awareness on her part that it was almost laughable to watch. truly grueling stuff
