This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird Chilling. The one where a guy wants to get his ex-wife deported because she divorced him may not be the same sheepish suburban voice but is a very casual cruelty that so many women experience.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird It seems like as soon as there's a number to call or address to write to for the purpose of "tipping off" the authorities about whatever, people cannot wait to start denouncing their neighbours. Doesn't matter if they've got no evidence of wrongdoing, that person gave them a funny look once, or they don't trim back their trees, or they let their dog bark too much, or they're just being wilfully foreign. And if they know the authorities don't care about evidence either, why not call?
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird Wasn't the US defining principles that all men were created equal and endowed with unalienable rights, including Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?
When was this swept under the carpet to bring in behaviours familiar in Nazi Germany, where people were encouraged to report on family, neighbours and friends to the Gestapo? How long will normal folk in the US put up with this shite? -
@futurebird Wasn't the US defining principles that all men were created equal and endowed with unalienable rights, including Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?
When was this swept under the carpet to bring in behaviours familiar in Nazi Germany, where people were encouraged to report on family, neighbours and friends to the Gestapo? How long will normal folk in the US put up with this shite?@IndyRichard @futurebird Unfortunately they left out "white" in the all men created... The US was founded on racism and genocide. As for how long will we deal with it, we have been dealing with it for coming up on 250 years now. I don't see it changing anytime soon. The bread and circuses haven't ended.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird Nazis even teach kindergarten apparently.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
Beginning to wonder if MAGA brains ever function beyond the level of a 6-yr-old.
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@petealexharris @futurebird The monsters are humans, and we are *not* better than they are. That is my point.
They come from among us, they have been raised in our societies, they are monsters of our own making.I've heard the cliche before, I understand it, I just reject it.
You're better than someone who wants to deport a child, or I don't know what to tell you. People who wouldn't are better than people who would.
Did something in our society make them that way? Maybe. Are the people who don't want to deport small children responsible for the ones who do, somehow? Absolutely fucking not.
They are monsters of each other's making, perhaps, not ours.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird I've watched quite a few of his videos on this, and other things. And the number of people who threaten him either legally or illegally is truly astonishing.
I'm sure they all consider themselves "Good Christians," too.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird what’s most surprising to me is seemingly so many people are shocked by maga being made human like this.
The Karen meme exists because it’s making fun of reality because what else can you do? Completely average ass suburban white women are sometimes filled with as much hate and anger as that swastika neck tat skinhead selling meth at the gas station.
This shouldn’t at all be a surprise to anyone. People really need to get out their bubbles.
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I've heard the cliche before, I understand it, I just reject it.
You're better than someone who wants to deport a child, or I don't know what to tell you. People who wouldn't are better than people who would.
Did something in our society make them that way? Maybe. Are the people who don't want to deport small children responsible for the ones who do, somehow? Absolutely fucking not.
They are monsters of each other's making, perhaps, not ours.
@edgeofeurope @futurebird @petealexharris the problem with that attitude is that it makes people start thinking that bad people are easy to spot, or far away. It makes them blind to what their family, friends, or neighbors do because they're obviously not monsters. People are very quick to dismiss accusations of being a nazi or fascist because they genuinely can't wrap their head around that being a possibility.
Maybe you're not susceptible to that bias but the average person sure is.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird That's the banality of racism, an idea the usa were built on, western countries in general love this one...
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
These people are deranged and not only are victims of the propaganda, but lack any sense of compassion. They don't realize that they can become the "illegals" in the next phase of this insanity. -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
Adults turning on each other is one thing, adults (esp those in positions of trust) turning on children, is dispicable and cruel.
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@futurebird is this real? I don’t want to criticise good work, but the audio quality is so high, is it really a call? Are people really this horrid??
@specialmonkeytom @futurebird Ben Palmer has been doing stuff like this to real MAGAts for a while. It's unlikely he would pivot to fiction for something like this
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@futurebird If you needed a reminder of how stupid half the US is, here's a good reminder.
@mast0d0nphan "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
—George Carlin, philosopher, sociologist, and spoken-word poet -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird this is one of the most horrible and important things I have listened to in all the day. Thank you for posting it.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird
So love this, but oof, these people -
@edgeofeurope @futurebird @petealexharris the problem with that attitude is that it makes people start thinking that bad people are easy to spot, or far away. It makes them blind to what their family, friends, or neighbors do because they're obviously not monsters. People are very quick to dismiss accusations of being a nazi or fascist because they genuinely can't wrap their head around that being a possibility.
Maybe you're not susceptible to that bias but the average person sure is.
@jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird
That's not what I said tho. The trouble with saying "they are like us" instead of "they act like us socially to get what they want" or "any of us could be like that" instead of "you can tell who is like that by what they support" is it makes monsters harder to spot; it denies they even really exist (or gives them space to hide behind that phrasing).
And people being quick to dismiss accusations is not, in fact, a reason to avoid accurate accusations.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
That fwawking woman is evil to her asshole. Monster.
And she handles young children.
Great nation ya got here. -
This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird There's this effect, donno the right terminology in English : you feel better off if your neighbor has bad luck. Seems like that is the case here
