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  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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    #34

    @dancingtreefrog
    Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

    @capitainesam

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    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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      #35

      @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #36

        🧵 So what can you do about it?

        Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

        More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

        Here's what I'm doing about it:

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        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

          🧵 So what can you do about it?

          Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

          More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

          Here's what I'm doing about it:

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          #37

          I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
          ❌ Facial recognition
          ❌ Fingerprint scans
          ❌ Biometric data of any kind

          Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

            I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
            ❌ Facial recognition
            ❌ Fingerprint scans
            ❌ Biometric data of any kind

            Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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            #38

            Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

            No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
            No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
            No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

            Simple.

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            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

              Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

              No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
              No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
              No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

              Simple.

              capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #39

              We're launching March 2026.

              Features:
              ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
              ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
              ✅ Open source (auditable code)
              ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
              ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                We're launching March 2026.

                Features:
                ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

                capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #40

                If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                👉 https://snugg.social

                No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                • jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ jacobgorm@sigmoid.social

                  @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                  #41

                  @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                  “Profile photo”

                  “We all”

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                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                    @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

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                    #42

                    @dancingtreefrog
                    This might help, it's shake and lock feature to be exact:
                    https://f-droid.org/packages/com.paranoid.privacylock

                    Android advanced security also has this feature, but it adds blocking non-Play app installs and updates.

                    @capitainesam

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                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                      I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                      ❌ Facial recognition
                      ❌ Fingerprint scans
                      ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                      Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                      emilyenco@todon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @capitainesam looks like you tagged a random person.

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                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                        #44

                        @capitainesam One of the 1.000.000.000 reasons.

                        Same with ID. It has a biometric photo on it. If scanned accurately, it can, AND WILL, be used to identify you.

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                        • ill_logic@mastodon.socialI ill_logic@mastodon.social

                          @jfml @capitainesam I would hope that your phone takes a "fingerprint" of your fingerprint, i.e. enough to verify but not reconstruct.

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                          #45

                          @ill_logic @jfml @capitainesam every proper implementation hashes the fingerprint, just like you don't store clear text passwords in the shadow file...

                          The question is, is this a proper implementation on phones...

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