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  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

      casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
      casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #29

      @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        mhs_jenkins@floss.social
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        #30

        @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

          When your password leaks:
          → Change your password
          → Problem solved

          When your biometric data leaks:
          → You can't change your face
          → You can't change your fingerprints
          → The compromise is permanent
          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

          paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #31

          @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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          • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

            @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

            manchicken@defcon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #32

            @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

              When your password leaks:
              → Change your password
              → Problem solved

              When your biometric data leaks:
              → You can't change your face
              → You can't change your fingerprints
              → The compromise is permanent
              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

              joat@mastodon.scotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #33

              @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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              • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                mercutio@troet.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #34

                @dancingtreefrog
                Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                @capitainesam

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                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  muzicofiel@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  muzicofiel@mastodon.nl
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                  #35

                  @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                    capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    capitainesam@mastodon.social
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                    #36

                    🧵 So what can you do about it?

                    Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                    More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                    Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                      🧵 So what can you do about it?

                      Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                      More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                      Here's what I'm doing about it:

                      capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      capitainesam@mastodon.social
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                      #37

                      I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                      ❌ Facial recognition
                      ❌ Fingerprint scans
                      ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                      Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                      capitainesam@mastodon.socialC emilyenco@todon.nlE 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                        I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                        ❌ Facial recognition
                        ❌ Fingerprint scans
                        ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                        Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                        capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        capitainesam@mastodon.social
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                        #38

                        Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                        No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                        No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                        No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                        Simple.

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                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                          Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                          No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                          No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                          No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                          Simple.

                          capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          capitainesam@mastodon.social
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                          #39

                          We're launching March 2026.

                          Features:
                          ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                          ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                          ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                          ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                          ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                            We're launching March 2026.

                            Features:
                            ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                            ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                            ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                            ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                            ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

                            capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #40

                            If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                            Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                            Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                            👉 https://snugg.social

                            No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                            • jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ jacobgorm@sigmoid.social

                              @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

                              lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizzaL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #41

                              @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                              “Profile photo”

                              “We all”

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                              • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                                @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

                                dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #42

                                @dancingtreefrog
                                This might help, it's shake and lock feature to be exact:
                                https://f-droid.org/packages/com.paranoid.privacylock

                                Android advanced security also has this feature, but it adds blocking non-Play app installs and updates.

                                @capitainesam

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                  ❌ Facial recognition
                                  ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                  ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                  Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                                  emilyenco@todon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #43

                                  @capitainesam looks like you tagged a random person.

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                                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                    When your password leaks:
                                    → Change your password
                                    → Problem solved

                                    When your biometric data leaks:
                                    → You can't change your face
                                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                                    → The compromise is permanent
                                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                    celeste_42bit@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #44

                                    @capitainesam One of the 1.000.000.000 reasons.

                                    Same with ID. It has a biometric photo on it. If scanned accurately, it can, AND WILL, be used to identify you.

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                                    • ill_logic@mastodon.socialI ill_logic@mastodon.social

                                      @jfml @capitainesam I would hope that your phone takes a "fingerprint" of your fingerprint, i.e. enough to verify but not reconstruct.

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                                      #45

                                      @ill_logic @jfml @capitainesam every proper implementation hashes the fingerprint, just like you don't store clear text passwords in the shadow file...

                                      The question is, is this a proper implementation on phones...

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