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  • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

    @randahl
    He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.

    Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.

    Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.

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    #39

    @taatm @randahl
    "Here's the fucked part about the "Maduro is bad" discourse - when have we ever done a regime change operation that improved anyone's lives? When? Which time did we take out the "bad guy" and the people we were "liberating" were like "thank you Yankee swine; you saved us!" When has the general population of a country we regime changed thanked us for bombing them?"
    -AnarchoNina

    Let's ask the Iraqis or Afghans.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

      Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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      #40

      @randahl
      Who would be on the jury? US citizens? My predication is that he will be released after some kind of deal is made. ☠️

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

        Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

        americansocialists@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #41

        @randahl This is what happens when capitalist imperialism goes unchecked.

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        • jmrr@twit.socialJ jmrr@twit.social

          @randahl "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." (David Friedman)

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          #42

          @jmrr

          Friedman (and his pa, too) is a hypocrite.

          "Libertarians" were always just another anti-socialist psy-op.

          A thin veneer over fascism.

          @randahl

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

            Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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            #43

            @randahl
            So sick of this fat treasonous fuck.
            His passing oughta be a world holiday....everyone gets a paid day off

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

              Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

              scaletheory@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #44

              @randahl
              Yep, common thieves... what a disgrace. Time to organize rebellion instead of bitching.
              "Do or do not there is no try."

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              • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

                @randahl

                They enjoy this. Their only value measurement is:

                "What can WE get away with?"

                To them, the hypocrisy is nothing bad, it's a flex of their power.

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                #45

                @juergen_hubert @randahl exactly

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                • rockiger@mastodon.socialR rockiger@mastodon.social

                  @taatm @bufalo1973 @randahl That is a very slippery slope.

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                  #46

                  @rockiger @bufalo1973 @randahl
                  All slopes are slippery but that is not an excuse to not act.

                  Also, I haven’t said Trump was right to do it. The question I have to ask everyone is, if that was Putin, would you say the same things?

                  I also hold that dictator types learn from inaction and by doing this Trump is more likely to take extreme measures elsewhere that are just all bad.

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                  • clintruin@mastodon.socialC clintruin@mastodon.social

                    @taatm @randahl
                    "Here's the fucked part about the "Maduro is bad" discourse - when have we ever done a regime change operation that improved anyone's lives? When? Which time did we take out the "bad guy" and the people we were "liberating" were like "thank you Yankee swine; you saved us!" When has the general population of a country we regime changed thanked us for bombing them?"
                    -AnarchoNina

                    Let's ask the Iraqis or Afghans.

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                    #47

                    @clintruin @randahl
                    I agree this might well go to shit… but someone did ask the Venezuelans and they are happy.

                    For the record. Trump is a cock.

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                    • bufalo1973@tuiter.rocksB bufalo1973@tuiter.rocks

                      @taatm @randahl in Spain the far right says the president is not legit and must be jailed... because they weren't elected. That doesn't mean the current president didn't follow the rules to become president. So by the far right idea, the US should invade Spain to kidnap the president... when he didn't break the law to become it. Don't you see the problem? Imagine another country where the opposition asks China to kidnap the president saying "s/he is not the president (because we say so)". Would it be right for China to do the same the US has done in Venezuela?

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                      #48

                      @bufalo1973 @taatm @randahl

                      The kingdom of Spain doesn't have a president...

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                      • colmdonoghue@mastodon.ieC colmdonoghue@mastodon.ie

                        @bufalo1973 @taatm @randahl

                        The kingdom of Spain doesn't have a president...

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                        #49

                        @ColmDonoghue @taatm @randahl then what the fuck is Pedro Sánchez?

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                        • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

                          @randahl
                          He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.

                          Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.

                          Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.

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                          #50

                          @taatm I fully agree with that point. I just find it ironic that the US administration — led by a convicted felon — wants to play global policeman.

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                          • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

                            @clintruin @randahl
                            I agree this might well go to shit… but someone did ask the Venezuelans and they are happy.

                            For the record. Trump is a cock.

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                            #51

                            @taatm @clintruin @randahl Are you saying that if ”someone” asks ten people from Greenland and they say it’s okay for Trump to invade, then it’s okay?

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                            • bufalo1973@tuiter.rocksB bufalo1973@tuiter.rocks

                              @ColmDonoghue @taatm @randahl then what the fuck is Pedro Sánchez?

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                              #52

                              @bufalo1973 prime minister. @ColmDonoghue @taatm

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                              • clintruin@mastodon.socialC clintruin@mastodon.social

                                @taatm @randahl
                                "Here's the fucked part about the "Maduro is bad" discourse - when have we ever done a regime change operation that improved anyone's lives? When? Which time did we take out the "bad guy" and the people we were "liberating" were like "thank you Yankee swine; you saved us!" When has the general population of a country we regime changed thanked us for bombing them?"
                                -AnarchoNina

                                Let's ask the Iraqis or Afghans.

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                                #53

                                @clintruin @taatm @randahl

                                WW2. That was the one time regime change worked out wel. For the western half of Europe, at least. But it's hard to find other examples.

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                                • chrisholladay@mastodon.socialC chrisholladay@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl
                                  So sick of this fat treasonous fuck.
                                  His passing oughta be a world holiday....everyone gets a paid day off

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                                  #54

                                  @ChrisHolladay I have a bottle of champagne saved.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                                    Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                                    #55

                                    @randahl But the President of the US can be held accountable in another nations court ... Right? So every time the President is traveling out of US, the President is at risk ... Right? The same must be with the soldiers, government and others, there making "criminal acts" in the eyes of other nations... Am I total out of course?

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                                    • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                      @taatm @clintruin @randahl Are you saying that if ”someone” asks ten people from Greenland and they say it’s okay for Trump to invade, then it’s okay?

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                                      #56

                                      @ahltorp @taatm @randahl
                                      ⬆️
                                      Here in Canada we have 'Maple MAGA'...about maybe 5 to 10 percent of the population. They'd be overjoyed if the Americans 'abducted' our Prime Minister and stuck him in Rikers...and you'd hear the same discourse you're hearing from *some* Venezuelans.

                                      Who the American media would Amplify...right?

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                                        Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                                        #57

                                        @randahl "We want mass deportations and secure boarders, but we also want violate other countries boarders and sovereignty with impunity."
                                        Might makes right is the closest thing MAGA has to a consistent ideology.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          @taatm I fully agree with that point. I just find it ironic that the US administration — led by a convicted felon — wants to play global policeman.

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                                          #58

                                          @randahl @taatm
                                          And if it's about dope...
                                          https://www.axios.com/2026/01/03/trump-maduro-venezueal-honduras-drug-war

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