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Have you ever helped people use their computers by talking to them over the phone, without seeing their screen?

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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Have you ever helped people use their computers by talking to them over the phone, without seeing their screen? It can be frustrating if they tell you mostly irrelevant details that bury the important stuff.

    This is the major problem with image description by AI. AI has no idea why the image was posted, so it gives irrelevant details.

    Human-written image descriptions are much better at communicating an image's purpose.

    More accessibility tips: https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-make-posts-more-accessible-to-blind-people-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

    #FediTips #Accessibility

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      Have you ever helped people use their computers by talking to them over the phone, without seeing their screen? It can be frustrating if they tell you mostly irrelevant details that bury the important stuff.

      This is the major problem with image description by AI. AI has no idea why the image was posted, so it gives irrelevant details.

      Human-written image descriptions are much better at communicating an image's purpose.

      More accessibility tips: https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-make-posts-more-accessible-to-blind-people-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

      #FediTips #Accessibility

      riverpunk@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @FediTips I have a question! You mention that there's a distinction between camel case and pascal case in programming, but that on social media we really don't need to be this granular (I agree).

      My question is: suppose I've got hardwired muscle memory to use #camelCase with a lowercase first word. Are screen readers going to mess up if I do that on accident? Does it matter? Does #camelCase and #CamelCase read different?

      Thx.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        Have you ever helped people use their computers by talking to them over the phone, without seeing their screen? It can be frustrating if they tell you mostly irrelevant details that bury the important stuff.

        This is the major problem with image description by AI. AI has no idea why the image was posted, so it gives irrelevant details.

        Human-written image descriptions are much better at communicating an image's purpose.

        More accessibility tips: https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-make-posts-more-accessible-to-blind-people-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

        #FediTips #Accessibility

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        dandylover1@someplace.social
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        #3

        @FediTips As someone who is totally blind, I find ai image descriptions to be extremely helpful. But in certain circumstances, such as alt text on Mastodon, in articles, etc. I do agree that human descriptions can often be much better. It depends on what is needed.

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        • D dandylover1@someplace.social

          @FediTips As someone who is totally blind, I find ai image descriptions to be extremely helpful. But in certain circumstances, such as alt text on Mastodon, in articles, etc. I do agree that human descriptions can often be much better. It depends on what is needed.

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          @dandylover1

          Thanks for the reply, and for the valuable perspective. I hope the post is okay, but if you feel I should reword it please do let me know. Would you like me to make clear that in some situations the AI option is valuable?

          The post was based on a discussion about this I had with another blind person on here, but the 500 character limit made it very compressed so some nuance may have been lost.

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          • riverpunk@defcon.socialR riverpunk@defcon.social

            @FediTips I have a question! You mention that there's a distinction between camel case and pascal case in programming, but that on social media we really don't need to be this granular (I agree).

            My question is: suppose I've got hardwired muscle memory to use #camelCase with a lowercase first word. Are screen readers going to mess up if I do that on accident? Does it matter? Does #camelCase and #CamelCase read different?

            Thx.

            feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @riverpunk

            As far as I know it works fine as long as you use a capital for each subsequent word. For example if there are three or more words in a single hashtag, the second, third etc words have to all start with a capital.

            The capital (upper case) is what tells the screen reader app to treat it as a new word.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              @dandylover1

              Thanks for the reply, and for the valuable perspective. I hope the post is okay, but if you feel I should reword it please do let me know. Would you like me to make clear that in some situations the AI option is valuable?

              The post was based on a discussion about this I had with another blind person on here, but the 500 character limit made it very compressed so some nuance may have been lost.

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              #6

              @FediTips I'm not one of those peoplewho is offended by everything. Plus, I know you would never willingly mislead people. I just wanted to share this with you, since both do have their place. Sometimes, it's not possible to have something described by a human. I've also seen cases in which those who don't speak English well used ai to ensure that their images had alt text, which I actually found to be heart-warming.

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