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@star @zenmaya It actually would not be the same acronym if translated into English, and it's not used in English either
And how should one figure out what it might mean if one is not deeply into queer feminist terminology, even more so in a different language?
I see people asking what "FLINTA" means all the time. So if it's used, I think it would be good to explain – for the audience it should address, for everyone it doesn't, for non (native) German speakers and to reduce ambiguity in general ^^
(Which is also one of the issues I have with the acronym) -
@star @zenmaya It actually would not be the same acronym if translated into English, and it's not used in English either
And how should one figure out what it might mean if one is not deeply into queer feminist terminology, even more so in a different language?
I see people asking what "FLINTA" means all the time. So if it's used, I think it would be good to explain – for the audience it should address, for everyone it doesn't, for non (native) German speakers and to reduce ambiguity in general ^^
(Which is also one of the issues I have with the acronym) -
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@fugi @zenmaya well, sorry for being even more pedantic, HOWEVER COMMA, the word "female" has multiple definitions, both in the dictionary and in common, everyday language use.
female (sex) does, indeed, translate to "weiblich".
female (tech) usually refers to the hollow counterpart of a connector. it'd be silly to assume that it'd mean anything other gender related, although, obviously, the word has its meaning from an (outdated, as we all are painfully aware) sex-based definition.
female (animal) would most likely translate to something like "Weibchen".
and, last but not least, female (woman) is also a correct and apparently frequently used way to translate "Frau". -
@star @zenmaya Not if they identify as a man. If a person is a cis endo man, and gnc, they would not fall under FLINTA, strictly speaking. Whether that is the intention (of e.g. event organizers) would be a question worth asking. IMO it leads to the conclusion that FLINTA is not a very useful term to use.
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@fugi @zenmaya well, sorry for being even more pedantic, HOWEVER COMMA, the word "female" has multiple definitions, both in the dictionary and in common, everyday language use.
female (sex) does, indeed, translate to "weiblich".
female (tech) usually refers to the hollow counterpart of a connector. it'd be silly to assume that it'd mean anything other gender related, although, obviously, the word has its meaning from an (outdated, as we all are painfully aware) sex-based definition.
female (animal) would most likely translate to something like "Weibchen".
and, last but not least, female (woman) is also a correct and apparently frequently used way to translate "Frau". -
@star @zenmaya Not if they identify as a man. If a person is a cis endo man, and gnc, they would not fall under FLINTA, strictly speaking. Whether that is the intention (of e.g. event organizers) would be a question worth asking. IMO it leads to the conclusion that FLINTA is not a very useful term to use.@fugi @zenmaya hm. i think this reasoning dissatisfies me, because the reasoning that "it is very loosely defined and therefore likely not a useful term" (if that was what you were trying to say) can be applied to lots of things: "lesbian" for example. i mean, you could likely write an entire book about the discussions about the term, and where its inclusivity begins or ends. "heterosexual" is also defined extremely weirdly throughout the world, but has better definitions in queer circles. but i would not say that these terms aren't useful. we give them meaning through context and our own experiences and conversational intentions. words are just made up
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@fugi oh FUCK yeah you can finally see emoji reactions (if not on mobile/mona)
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@fugi @zenmaya hm. i think this reasoning dissatisfies me, because the reasoning that "it is very loosely defined and therefore likely not a useful term" (if that was what you were trying to say) can be applied to lots of things: "lesbian" for example. i mean, you could likely write an entire book about the discussions about the term, and where its inclusivity begins or ends. "heterosexual" is also defined extremely weirdly throughout the world, but has better definitions in queer circles. but i would not say that these terms aren't useful. we give them meaning through context and our own experiences and conversational intentions. words are just made up
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@fugi oh FUCK yeah you can finally see emoji reactions (if not on mobile/mona)@star switched clients just for you, so I could see them ^w^
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@fugi @zenmaya ANYGAYS i set up a mirror at codeberg.org/ava/sick-ass-poster so you can now also create PRs and yeah :3
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@star switched clients just for you, so I could see them ^w^@star tho I would have probably missed it if you didn't say so
none of the iOS clients seem to support it (for getting notified at least), I might have to do some frickeling -
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